November 9, 2012 // Wake Up the Echoes

Wake Up the Echoes – I Still Hate David Gordon Edition

1 Star2 Stars3 Stars4 Stars5 Stars (No Ratings Yet)
Loading ... Loading ...

It’s been 19 years since Notre Dame was last 9-0 to start a season.  That means it’s also been 19 years since Boston College kicker David Gordon’s kick sailed through the uprights at Notre Dame Stadium to ruin Notre Dame’s perfect season and crush the dreams of an 11 year old who had fallen in love with Notre Dame football.

Even though I was just a wee lad at the time, I will never forget that kick.  I’ll never forget how it felt to watch Notre Dame’s title hopes get kicked away.  I’ll never forget my mom asking me why I was so upset since it was “just one game” and couldn’t figure out what the big deal was.  Chicks, huh?

Well 19 years later the Irish are finally undefeated into November again as the Irish head into Chestnut Hill this weekend to take on those same Boston College Eagles who ruined their title hopes in 1993 and then again in 2002 and yes, I am still bitter, and yes I still hate David Gordon. Should I be more a bit more mature as a 30 year old now?  Probably.  That doesn’t mean I will be though.

So… without further ado, here is this week’s Wake Up the Echoes.

The ABC promo for the game ought to get you going. NBC, please take some notes.

Last time Notre Dame traveled to Chestnut Hill…

The last time Notre Dame was 9-0 this was the intro for the game… a game that ended with Notre Dame improving to 10-0.

And the last time these two teams faced off overall..

Speaking of the last time these two teams played. In last year’s contest Jonas Gray’s breakout season was completely derailed by a tough injury that has slowed the start of his NFL career. Here’s a touching video of Gray from the locker room after last year’s game.

One of the few bright moments from this series during the Davie/Willingham eras.

Highlights from last week’s win over PIttsburgh.

Notre Dame needs to forget what it did against Pitt and remember what it did to the last ACC opponent they had faced prior to last week.

I would love to see Notre Dame show no mercy tomorrow – kinda like Captain Insaneo.

And I would love for this to be all Brian Kelly says to the team before taking the field.

And then have Manti Te’o reenact this scene at the end of the game staring out into an emptied out Alumni Stadium.

Considering the history of this series though, I will just be very thankful to escape Boston with a W – no matter how ugly.

Comments to this Article

  • Toulmin H. Brown commented on November 9th, 2012 at 8:51 am

    To mia the real question is: “Will Boston College score a TD.”

    [Reply]

  • Shazamrock commented on November 9th, 2012 at 9:08 am

    I never hated David Gordon. Hell, I could have never even told you his name unless Frank had mentioned it.

    I hated those low life BC fans.

    I know, I’m Irish and so are they. I’m Catholic and so are they. I know we are supposed to be brothers connected by nationality, faith, and common life struggles. But I never saw it that way. Those things are supposed to be a two way street.

    I always hated those fans because they hated us.(God forgive me)

    The stories of those drunken degenerates storming their field after they had defeated us, not so they could celebrate with “their” team, but so they could curse, shove, and spit on ours.

    And when the BC football team came to our stadium…. they were no better.
    Tearing off chunks of our sacred field and waving them around in the air.
    Trashing our locker rooms like a bunch of animals.
    I never wanted ND to beat BC by 50.(well, sometimes I did) I wanted ND to come from behind and beat them by 1 because that was more painfull.
    And when we scored a TD… I always wanted the coaches to go for two, only because the rules wouldn’t allow us to go for three!

    For the longest time I never really understood the animosity and hate between the only two major Irish Catholic schools playing division 1 football.

    Then someone much older and much wiser told me that it was because the school and fans at BC have long suffered from and inferiority complex.
    They see ND as the big brother who always gets all the attention, all the accolades, all the praise, all the glory.

    And they are always second fiddle.

    Well ain’t life a bitch!

    I have to admit, after looking at it that way, I am much more understanding. (But it still feels great to beat those guys!)

    We Are ND!

    [Reply]

    JDH replied on November 9th, 2012 at 1:39 pm

    The reason for the “hate” is born out of pure jealousy coming from BC’s direction. They know that they live in ND’s shadow and have never / will never be us. It’s like a big brother who has it all- great looks, 4.0 and great athlete. And BC is the skinny, stupid, douchebag little brother who can’t get chicks.

    [Reply]

    irisheye62 replied on November 9th, 2012 at 3:20 pm

    AMEN JDH -AMEN SHAZ!!!

    Still remember how I felt after the 41-39 final in 93.
    As for “not wanting to run up 50 on BC” –I don’t either.
    I WANT 80!!
    It’s time to make a big, huge statement. And I mean HUGE!

    [Reply]

  • Damian commented on November 9th, 2012 at 10:00 am

    BC is dangerous in the sense they always are motivated to play ND, even when they are at their worse. But frankly, this is not the BC team of 1993 or 2002. This is a team that would struggle against some division III teams. Also, ND has been playing lights out on the road, so this could end up being a blow out. I’m actually more concerned about Wake Forest them I am BC (esp. since that is at home).

    I agree with Shazamrock in the sense that coming from behind to beat them would be demoralizing for them. However, ND needs to blow them out. If ND struggles and comes from behind to beat BC, that would effectively end any chance of a run for a NC. ND needs to soundly beat their last 3 opponents to have any chance. So this year, I hope they beat BC 50 to 3. They need to beat them 50-3.

    There’s certainly no guarantee blow outs in the last 3 games would get ND to a NC game, but if it’s a fight to the finish with BC, a national championship is over for ND.

    So go ND. Beat the living crap out of BC. Make them cry when they leave the field. And show them ND is a classy bunch. We don’t spit or curse at other teams.

    [Reply]

  • Shazamrock commented on November 9th, 2012 at 10:29 am

    Q: Does USC really suck this year?
    A: How else do you explain all those deflated balls

    HEADLINE:
    “Kiffin says small balls are easier to grip, harder to kick!”

    Rumor Mill…
    USC has been playing with undersized balls ever since Kiffin arrived!

    (Add your own rap music theme)
    “Who let the air out….
    WHO, WHO, WHO !

    Who let the Air out…..
    WHO, WHO, WHO !

    Ok, enough of these shenanigans
    USC is still weeks away…

    Get back to work!

    [Reply]

    DeltaIrish replied on November 9th, 2012 at 11:59 am

    Best. Post. Ever.

    Shaz, you won the internet today.

    Delta

    [Reply]

    irisheye62 replied on November 9th, 2012 at 3:33 pm

    he did indeed-
    I keep telling him he should be on the Presidential Cabinet–but –he says the only cabinet he is interested in is one that holds a beverage! LOL GO SHAZ-
    GO IRISH KICK ASS WITHOUT APOLOGY TOMORROW–
    BC-BEGS FOR MERCY

    [Reply]

    Sad Warrior replied on November 9th, 2012 at 3:16 pm

    Shaz-We just saw this posting! My Jesus how you brought the hangar down! I barely had time to turn around and the joint went up in chaos! Everyone is dancing, singing, and shouting! ‘Who! Who! Who! You won the internet for sure!

    I truly think some of you guys are the best morale officers I’ve ever seen or should I say heard! Thank you! And please keep them coming!

    Go Irish! Who, Who, Who! Hooah!

    [Reply]

    Shazamrock replied on November 12th, 2012 at 10:13 am

    In the words of Chicago Bears great, and Middle Linebacker Mike Singletary…

    “This is my kind of Party”

    Lets keep this thing going!

    Stay thirsty my friends!

    [Reply]

  • IRISHCHICK commented on November 9th, 2012 at 12:55 pm

    “Chicks, huh?” Just so you know this is one chick that does understand how important EVERY game is. :) Watching last weeks game was painful to think that a perfect season was almost over and to be taken by Pitt come on guys really/ I really liked what Manti Te’o said a few weeks ago I hate to lose more than a like to win./ I’m sure that the Irish are prepared this week for BC and they will bring home another Win!!!! GO IRISH!!!!!!

    [Reply]

  • Patrick commented on November 9th, 2012 at 1:07 pm

    You know, this article hits home. The 1993 game I was 12 years old and it was the first time a sporting event made me cry (last time too). I remember what Notre Dame shirt I was wearing, how it felt to watch the kick and how it shattered my hopes that day.

    It is why, every time ND plays BC, I take great pride in watching them lose. It is why, tomorrow, I hope Notre Dame rips the very soul, the essence, out of BC. I’m hoping with enough routs, it can fill the bottle of hatred I have for Boston College.

    F*ck BC.

    [Reply]

    JDH replied on November 9th, 2012 at 1:44 pm

    I remember the 1993 season like it was yesterday. I had to endure tons of trash talking and taunting from college friends the week prior to the FSU game. All I heard about was how ND was overrated, slow, boring etc. and they were no match for the fast, flashy Seminoles. I watched the game at a fraternity with some good friends and ND fans. We stacked couches on tables to make a sort of “stadium seating” around the big screen. We had a big Rubbermaid gray garbage can filled with ice and Busch Light. MANY beers were put down and by the end of the game we were lit. When the clock was at 0:00 we ran up and down campus singing the ND fight song, yelling “We’re going to the show!!” etc. And then BC happened.

    [Reply]

    Jack replied on November 9th, 2012 at 3:14 pm

    I was pledging during that year and a brother was a Noles fan. He tried to make me say ND sucks, needless to say I voluntarily cranked out over 100 push ups. When ND won I wore all of my ND stuff down the house that night chanting FSU sucks. Again voluntarily did push ups while laughing at the FSU fan. We also made a bet that he would have to wear all ND garb until they lost. Needless to say I was dressed head to toe the next week in BC shit. NOT A HAPPY CAMPER, I would have rather done the push ups.

    [Reply]

  • chi-town copper commented on November 9th, 2012 at 2:08 pm

    A few words of wisdom for us to be confident: Glenn Foley, the Hasselbeck brothers and Matt Ryan aint walkin’ through that door! Go Irish!

    [Reply]

  • Irish ’94 commented on November 9th, 2012 at 3:06 pm

    It was the best of times, it was the worst of times. That is how I would describe the 1 week stretch of time in the fall of ’93. One of the coolest experiences I had during my 4 years at the Bend was lighting the #1 sign atop Grace Hall after beating FSU. Of course we all know what happened just a week later and a campus that was beaming with pride turned into the walking dead. I remember looking at people and feeling like it was just a bad dream. Hard to believe that this is the first time since then that we are 9-0. Lo and behold, who is up next on the schedule. Let us not forget that the BC team of ’93 was actually pretty good. Guy by the name of Coughlin roamed the sidelines and he knows a thing or two about pulling a Giant upset (pun intended). This edition of BC is a far cry from their great teams, but it just gives me the creeps that there exists this chance for them to bring me back to the fall of ’93 all over again.

    Beating BC this week will be more therapeutic for the fans who witnessed the horror that took place nearly 20 years ago (where has the time gone)than it will be for the current players. To them, this is just the 10th step of the ladder. If the ND boys of 2012 can do their job Saturday night I will feel that somehow that wound of years gone by will start to heal just a little. I’m very glad this game is taking place on the road because the last two defeats to BC with undefeated seasons at stake has occured at home. It seems as if they were to fall behind early the home crowd would almost have that sinking feeling come over it as if here we go again. The pressure would mount and I’m sure our boys would feel it. On the road will be a different story. Sure their crowd will be going crazy to start, but that emotion will only carry a bad team so far. As Mike Tyson once said, “Everybody’s got a plan until you hit them in the mouth.”

    I was part of the last student group to see the #1 sign at Grace Hall lit for the football team. Here’s to hoping we plug that thing in real soon.

    Go Irish!

    [Reply]

  • JC commented on November 10th, 2012 at 5:39 pm

    #9 Louisville undefeated season tanked today!

    Here come the Irish!

    [Reply]

  • Irish ’94 commented on November 10th, 2012 at 8:23 pm

    Well boys it just got real with Bama losing.
    Just win baby!!!

    [Reply]

  • fxm commented on November 10th, 2012 at 8:24 pm

    Ok, bye-bye Bama. Can we beat USC? They scare me because of the skill players, though Barkley now has 13 picks on the year. But can we score enough on that really bad defense? I never imagined us being in this spot. I can’t believe the powers that be, corrupt as they are, wouldn’t find a way to jump us over KSU. But, I get ahead of myself. Pretty exciting.

    [Reply]

  • jonny commented on November 10th, 2012 at 8:48 pm

    only thing that matters is BC

    ….take care of business!

    GO IRISH!!

    [Reply]

  • SteelFanRob commented on November 10th, 2012 at 9:52 pm

    Not going to blow anybody out taking 7 minutes to score and allowing 7 minute drives.

    Need to win big tonight, people. No excuses. No settling for a nail biter. Have to win by at least 17 tonight, and preferably more.

    Not going to do it playing like this. EG has Riddick wide open for a TD but throws it low. The D then allows BC to respond to the ND TD with a clock consuming drive that will probably end in 3 points for the Eagles.

    C’mon!

    [Reply]

  • SteelFanRob commented on November 10th, 2012 at 9:58 pm

    I don’t care how much ND needs to pay but go out ande get the best STs coach available. This is crap with our STs is getting pornographically bad!

    [Reply]

    fxm replied on November 10th, 2012 at 10:08 pm

    You see Rob this is how you respond after last weeks wake-up call. You come out and play sloppy with penalties and turn the ball over. Could you imagine playing against SC like this. We will find some of the one loss eams leap frogging us at this rate.

    [Reply]

  • SteelFanRob commented on November 10th, 2012 at 10:15 pm

    You know, fxm, I try to believe but this stuff makes you want to puke!

    This isn’t a great team. Whoever believes that is delusional. They’ve played 1 great game, at Norman. That’s it.

    C’mon, Irish, wake up!

    Kill BC!!!

    [Reply]

  • SteelFanRob commented on November 10th, 2012 at 11:27 pm

    This is the 116th rush D without its leading tackler since the 1st quarter we’re playing, isn’t it?

    What a crap performance so far.

    [Reply]

    fxm replied on November 10th, 2012 at 11:34 pm

    Very uninspiring, the guy from Rivals just signed off, “OK, we are going to win I gotta go.” I guess Cierre is just permanently in the doghouse with another 5 carry night.

    [Reply]

  • jonny commented on November 10th, 2012 at 11:34 pm

    i have an idea

    ….COVER THEIR RB ON 3rd DOWN!!!

    [Reply]

    fxm replied on November 10th, 2012 at 11:36 pm

    I have a better idea, how about a couple of sacks tonight.

    [Reply]

  • SteelFanRob commented on November 10th, 2012 at 11:35 pm

    One of the worst 3rd down O’s (BC) beating up one of the best 3rd down D’s (ND). Can’t get off the field on D,ND. Way to go! ND is playing keep the ball away from its own O. Way to go, D. Keep BC in the game.

    [Reply]

    SteelFanRob replied on November 10th, 2012 at 11:38 pm

    Notice the absolute silence of the apologists.

    Now after we win this crap of a game they’ll come out of their closets and make their endless excuses.

    [Reply]

    jonny replied on November 10th, 2012 at 11:50 pm

    who says we’re gonna win??

    once again shooting ourselves in the foot
    smh

    [Reply]

  • fxm commented on November 10th, 2012 at 11:41 pm

    Couldn’t you just see us turning the ball over here and turning this pathetic game into a nail-biter.

    [Reply]

    jonny replied on November 10th, 2012 at 11:50 pm

    in a word

    YES

    [Reply]

  • SteelFanRob commented on November 10th, 2012 at 11:52 pm

    What a garbage game from this team that can’t get out of its own way.

    My God, what’s BC’s record.

    Remind me again Shaz how many rushing yards Army put up against BC, and that was with their best LB, who’s been out of this game since the 1st qtr.

    This team simply doesn’t deserve to be in the NC discussion playing like this.

    [Reply]

  • jonny commented on November 10th, 2012 at 11:55 pm

    BIG STOP BOYS!!

    [Reply]

  • SteelFanRob commented on November 10th, 2012 at 11:57 pm

    Wait, wait, can you just hear it?!

    Bc played their Super Bowl today. They got up for ND. Etc.

    How many times have we heard this same lame excuse? Even if it were true, then ND is guilty of stupidly not knowing this year after year.

    [Reply]

  • jonny commented on November 11th, 2012 at 12:05 am

    zero turn overs for BC i think

    lets change that!

    [Reply]

  • SteelFanRob commented on November 11th, 2012 at 12:06 am

    Unstoppable O! Is this the 85 Bears D we’re playing against?!

    This is one of the worst D’s in the FBS.

    So A & M puts up 29 on Alabama in Tuscaloosa and we’re struggling to put 21 on BC.

    What a load of garbage!

    [Reply]

    fxm replied on November 11th, 2012 at 12:14 am

    Only Maine 3 points and Maryland 20 points have scored less against BC.

    [Reply]

    SteelFanRob replied on November 11th, 2012 at 12:43 am

    Well, fxm, but those are powerhouse teams.

    I’m sure glad BK is such a genius on O.

    Crap! Absolute garbage!

    Needless to say no one, not even the most delusional here, believe we’ll beat USC playing like we played the last 2 weeks.

    Heck, I’m not sure we can beat Wake, who handled BC, playing like this!

    [Reply]

  • fxm commented on November 11th, 2012 at 12:10 am

    When you play like this you can’t even complain when the pollsters take you to the woodshed. For the win is a win club, uh, no.

    [Reply]

  • jonny commented on November 11th, 2012 at 12:12 am

    i HATE boston college

    i just want the “W”

    [Reply]

  • fxm commented on November 11th, 2012 at 12:15 am

    On a positive note, Manti has more picks (6) than any CB in the country.

    [Reply]

  • SteelFanRob commented on November 11th, 2012 at 12:15 am

    Screw the W, jonny. This is a gutless, shameful performance. I mean we can’t even get a first down to end the game against that D!

    God are we so used to shit and failure this is where we’re at that we’re happy to be beating BC by 15!

    [Reply]

    jonny replied on November 11th, 2012 at 12:19 am

    honestly (i understand your point)

    but i hate BC that much….so yes. i really just want the win. style points be damned.

    [Reply]

  • Irish ’94 commented on November 11th, 2012 at 12:21 am

    Great to be 10-0!
    Ugly for sure, but it beats a Bama 9-1.

    [Reply]

    SteelFanRob replied on November 11th, 2012 at 12:26 am

    Except that Bama has 2 NCs in the last 3 years and was playing for its 3rd in 4 years. So bad day for Bama today but would love to one day be in a position to play for a 3rd NC in 4 years!

    [Reply]

  • fxm commented on November 11th, 2012 at 12:21 am

    IF you hate someone, you want to do to them what Florida State did a few weeks back 51 – 7, that is hate. This reminds me of when Weis wanted to be nice to navy and got bit on the ass.

    [Reply]

  • jonny commented on November 11th, 2012 at 12:38 am

    supposedly scores dont matter with computers

    relax man….we’re 10-and 0

    enjoy it!!

    [Reply]

    fxm replied on November 11th, 2012 at 12:42 am

    Computers are a piece, not the whole. We are ranked 2 by the computers. I am worried that the team that I have seen the last two weeks can not beat SC. Unless, you think they will just turn it on when called for when they stroll into the Coliseum.

    [Reply]

    SteelFanRob replied on November 11th, 2012 at 12:48 am

    Someone please explain to jonny computers alone don’t determine the BCS.

    But it doesn’t matter since ND will not be playing for the NC unless Oregon and or KSU lose. Besides ND won’t beat USC playing like this on O.

    Let’s enjoy winning NCs not BS games against BS teams!

    [Reply]

    jonny replied on November 11th, 2012 at 1:04 am

    SFR : i’m not concerned with computers, and rankings, and the bcs, and how much we win by……..

    we’re UNDEFEATED

    we’re in rarified air now (as in, the last 20 years)

    i dont care about anything else, other than being undefeated half way thru november

    as far as everything else is concerned…let the chips fall where they may

  • storespook commented on November 11th, 2012 at 12:43 am

    Well, a win but very unimpressive. Again, struggling against a team to score offensive points that is sub-par to ND. ND has to learn how to put away teams like this caliber team BC has this year. Instead, poor penalties and 2 fumbles that most likely erased some type of further scoring led to low offensive production. Unless KSU & Oregon lose, they will be playing in a BCS NC game even if ND wins out and a performance tonight against BC which was a clearly inferior foe only validates a further reason to keep out ND. Time to focus on Wake for next week. BK better keep them focused on that and not be thinking Los Angeles.

    Go Irish

    [Reply]

  • spiceyirish commented on November 11th, 2012 at 1:03 am

    I would love to talk about the win, but first I’m very upset with the latest bowl projections. If the three teams stay undefeated (Oregon, K-State and ND) then Oregon vs K-State for the title, then the #3 team Notre Dame will play the #15 team Nebraska in the Rose Bowl. If ND goes undefeated and doesn’t get into the title game, then ND should be invited to play in the Sugar Bowl against #4 Alabama or Georgia. How could ND prove their #3 ranking by playing a #15 team? Playing a #4 team would mean a lot more for ND.

    [Reply]

  • spiceyirish commented on November 11th, 2012 at 1:04 am

    Screw the style points right now. Treat all the games like the NCAA Tournament. Win and move on to the next round.

    [Reply]

    fxm replied on November 11th, 2012 at 1:14 am

    At this point in time it is not like the hoops tourney. It is like gymnastics, style matters. So don’t get angry when we are on the outside looking in. Another thing, when all of your games are a nail biter, guys like Teo can’t have a rest and young guys can’t get any work. There is lot more to this than style .

    [Reply]

    spiceyirish replied on November 11th, 2012 at 2:24 am

    I agree that Notre Dame is not doing much in the style category. I think Brian Kelly is managing the Pittsburgh and Boston College games not to lose, instead of winning the game. Maybe he thinks ND will be one of two undefeated teams at the end of the season

    I think even if Notre Dame won the Pittsburgh and BC games convincingly, they would still be at #3 in the BCS. Oregon and KSU are winning the human polls and that is what will put them over the top in the end. Yet better victories means the gap between ND and the #2 team would be closer.

    If there are three undefeated teams, it will be hard to believe that ND will make the title game, even with convincing victories down the stretch.

    [Reply]

    SteelFanRob replied on November 11th, 2012 at 2:36 am

    spicey,

    Forget about the BCS rankings for a moment. The problem is that this team is simply not very good on O or STs. Bottom line.

    I’d rather be # 3 but seeing improvement on O and STs and dominating teams we should be dominating than # 3 looking like absolute garbage on O and STs.

    I mean BC is horrendous. Its D is especially bad. They played most of the game without their best D player.

    Shaz shared with us the stats about how putrid BC is.

    If not for the D this could’ve been bad!

  • SteelFanRob commented on November 11th, 2012 at 1:12 am

    I’m not concerned with computers or style points.

    What I am concerned about is a team that isn’t improving on O or STs. I’m concerned about a team that doesn’t look like it can score against anybody on a regular basis. I’m not concerned about the NC since we’re not playing like a NC team in 2 of the 3 phases of the game.

    I’m seeing Oregon have a “bad” half on O and still score 24 points against a Cal team that is much better than BC. That’s a real scoring machine.

    [Reply]

  • SteelFanRob commented on November 11th, 2012 at 1:24 am

    So long as Alabama doesn’t win the NC and ND finishes in the top 10, I’ll be OK. ND needs to beat WF convincingly in S. Bend. Then just find a way to beat either USC or win their bowl game to finish in the top 10. However, beat both USC and whomever they play in whatever bowl game they play and a top 3 finish is likely.

    ND is shaping to have a top 5 recruiting class.

    So the future is bright.

    But they need to start beating the BCs of the world convincingly or we’ll get screwed perhaps even in a 4 team PO system.

    [Reply]

  • SteelFanRob commented on November 11th, 2012 at 2:09 am

    At least there’s one Kelly who knows how to coach O in the FBS.

    Oh, btw, the Oregon QB is a true freshman.

    [Reply]

    bC replied on November 11th, 2012 at 3:02 am

    Nahh he is redshirt frosh so is johnny football both very low rated QBs tho just proves what rivals and espnu knows

    [Reply]

    SteelFanRob replied on November 11th, 2012 at 3:09 am

    bC,

    Thanks for the correction.

    Besides the imperfect science of recruiting, it also proves the power of good coaching and player development.

    ND consistently outrecruits Oregon but their players on O are miles ahead of ours.

    [Reply]

    bC replied on November 11th, 2012 at 2:39 pm

    I totally agree no reason our o cant put up 50 to 60 on the likes of pitt and BC , EG Is the same ageish as these QBS and I think has more potential but they are leaps and bounds ahead … No reason for it … A “flat” O seems like the norm since Oklahoma

  • JC commented on November 11th, 2012 at 2:32 am

    I like our gut-wrenching 10 win milestone! 1st line in the sand we were looking for this season and we did it! 15 points is good enough for me vs 3 OT’s to get it done. Not going to berate the team how we got here. We are still learning to walk before we can run, especially with EG. There is absolutely no way we are going to roll over and play dead the rest of the way. This team will not start winning pretty until next year and we already know it! Not guaranteed, just the likely opportunity to do so.

    Looking forward to 11-0. Further, EG and BK were bonding which we must have the rest of the way, both looked obviously comfortable with each other. I have not witnessed that all season!!! I never felt like BC was going to climb back in the game to move ahead. EG’s legs are invaluable, he froze guys long enough to pick their pocket. Not to mention a bomb to a wide open Goodman in the end zone. Chris, your favorite guy did it for the 2nd time this year! Hahahaha. Goodman has been perfect two times!!! Michigan State the other.

    Mistakes yeah, plenty! Catastrophic today? No. We already know we are not perfect and neither is Bama. ND’s defense is indeed the #1 Red Zone Defense in the country say’s good old Herbie! 2 field goals attest to it whether we like it or not!? It’s OK guy’s we are good at something, go ahead and repack your hemroids for the next game! Hahahaha. I do like Rob’s idea get the check book out and hire a real ST Coach! Especially in time for USC we will definately need it. Ideally better yet for Wake!
    Happy Trails Laurel & Hardy! Hahaha you guys need your high blood pressure meds! At this rate you’ll both be dead after Wake? Relax and enjoy the bonus wins! This is a whole lot better than 8-5 and it’s time to start giving credit no matter how damn ugly we are from here on out. Besides, I never worry about winning the popular vote, I have no problem being on an island all by myself. Actually I like better that way. So as of today, Bama is not better than ND! No one is invincible!

    Here come the Irish!

    [Reply]

  • SteelFanRob commented on November 11th, 2012 at 2:53 am

    JC,

    We need to see improvement over the last 3 games. Bottom line. Like fxm says we need to get our regulars some rest and our young guys some playing time for experience next season.

    Do we need to apologize for the win? No. Should we rejoice. Not me at least. This team looks like its regressing on O and STs (if that’s possible!).

    Let’s not worry about the BCS NC game. ND is not getting there if it loses to USC. Even if it beats SC it will need a lot of help.

    So focus on ND. See if this team improves over the next 3 games (including the bowl game). Enjoy the wins but realize that our ultimate goal from here on out should be to be a powerhouse like Bama and expect to win games, esp. against the likes of BC, by blow outs.

    NC has to become the goal now and for the forseeable future!

    [Reply]

  • SteelFanRob commented on November 11th, 2012 at 2:58 am

    Sorry, JC, but as of today Bama has 2 NCs in the past 3 years! Don’t be surprised if they don’t play for another in the next season or two.

    That’s where we want to get to, JC. No settling for less, whether we achieve it or not, that’s the goal, to win NCs. We want to get to the point that people compare us to NFL teams! Bama has achieved that level of greatness, regardless of their loss today.

    I’ll change places with Bama today any day if that means we’re the defending NCs and had won another titles recently as well.

    [Reply]

  • JC commented on November 11th, 2012 at 3:05 am

    Rob,

    I already know what we need, I have seen it with Ara. Like I said, it’s time to give credit when credit is due period. As an employer, I pay bonuses for reaching milestones……not wishful thinking.

    Here come the Irish!

    [Reply]

  • SteelFanRob commented on November 11th, 2012 at 3:15 am

    That’s right, JC, but let’s hold off on the bonuses until the end, when they’re truly earned!

    Let’s beat WF, USC, and whomever we play in the bowl game. I’ll give BK credit when he develops an O that looks like it’s BCS level. When he hires a real STs coach. When he beats the likes of BC like they sould be beaten, not by 15.

    So let’s hold off on accolades, bonuses, and credit until they’re earned!

    Here come the Irish, and let’s hope they come through!

    [Reply]

    JC replied on November 11th, 2012 at 3:47 am

    Rob,

    You know your trying to manipulate the wrong person. Be happy with your assessment and leave it at that.

    I stand by mine because 10 wins was without question the threshold this year for me to be happy with progress. Believe me, I am now happy, satisfied, no of course not.

    So let’s hold off on your personal litmus arrows. I don’t need to be force fed on what I like or intend to give credit to.

    You need to realize you are demanding acceptance. Sorry you are not going to asphyxiate me on what I like. You are definately treading on thin ice here.

    Here come the Irish!

    [Reply]

  • SteelFanRob commented on November 11th, 2012 at 3:57 am

    JC,

    I’m not demanding anything of you or anyone else. Just freely expressing my personal opinion. So you know you are trying to manipulte the wrong person!

    Please don’t threaten me by saying I’m treading on thin ice. You know I’m certainly not afraid of you or anybody else here. You’re not going to silence me anymore than you’ve silenced Shaz or fxm or anybody else. Sorry!

    However, I know your MO, so I’m not going to engage in a never-ending pissing contest with you. If you feel so belittled you need the last vulgar or threatening word go ahead. I hope not given our years of mutual respect and appreciation. But I leave it up to you to demonstrate your level of maturity here.

    Go Irish!

    [Reply]

  • JC commented on November 11th, 2012 at 4:14 am

    Yeah, Let’s not? Mr. Perfection 15 NC’s by tommorrow? Hahahahahaha, besides your never happy about anything! Or allow any else to be happy. Sad, you are sad, truthism you just can’t deal with. How’s that for freely expressing my sincere opinion! Good night chief arm twister see you tommorrow hahahaha XOXO!

    Here come the Irish!

    [Reply]

  • JC commented on November 11th, 2012 at 1:01 pm

    Frank,

    Happy, Happy, Happy and Happy, Na Na Na, Hey Hey Hey good-bye BC and Bama!
    I don’t have amnesia on my 10 win threshold for success this year! Nor did I decide to make the 1st goal a continuous upward threshold target! Kelly & Co. deserve full credit right now for turning the corner on this program, TODAY! Further, we are not done and that is obvious now!

    After living through 4 National Championships with serious winning tradition I can recognize real progress when I see it, without any assistance whatsoever, and that is where we are now. Perfect? Hahahaha far from it. Nonetheless, I can say ND is definately now in the BCS conversation per Mr. Swarbrick’s definition and that is all that matters! Herbie and Brent made sure of that! From here on out 11, 12 or 13 wins Kelly deserves full additional credit for each win period, no matter where we end up. The future is bright on achieved results, 10-0 cannot be rebuked or twisted into preferred theory. The sourpusses need to smile today, I was definately not the only one who defined 10 wins as an acceptable winning season based on our schedule. Painful as it was, we are here now. Will Kelly turn into an elite coach? Well the opportunity seems more likely than not.

    Here come the Irish!

    [Reply]

  • SteelFanRob commented on November 11th, 2012 at 2:54 pm

    bC,

    I don’t know about 50 but there’s no reason ND shouldn’t score consistently in the 30s. Just think about how different the feel of the BC finish is if the final score is 31-6, which is nothing given BC’s D weakness.

    I don’t think BK wasn’t to go full speed on O. It seems like he prefers ground and pound, methodical drives. That’s great so long as you get TDs in the end.

    bC, did you hear that stat at the beginning of the game that ND was something like #114 (out of 119 or 120) on TD redzone efficiency?

    We just need to continue to see development on O and STs this season and next.

    [Reply]

    bC replied on November 11th, 2012 at 4:04 pm

    Yea I know what you mean I never felt this game BC was a threat like pitt was but I don’t feel comfort until I see a 3 Td lead which isn’t too much to ask in games like these but I don’t see 4+ mill in my bank account every year and my last name isn’t Kelly. But I do feel they are improving I feel like they have a desire and will to win which is more than I can say about the last 4 or 5 years . No I missed that stat but I would not doubt that at all.
    Here is a rankings table they gained a few spots yesterday LOL

    http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/1038/p2

    [Reply]

    SteelFanRob replied on November 11th, 2012 at 4:25 pm

    Thanks for the stats, bC!

    This team is definitely improving. BK is doing an even better job than fat CW in recruiting and he’s actually developing that talent.

    Now we need to take the next step and become a dominant team, not just good, but great!

    That’s what we all want even if we disagree how to get there and when we shoul get there.

    GO ND!

    [Reply]

  • storespook commented on November 11th, 2012 at 3:33 pm

    Lots of strong opinions being expressed. At least there is some fire amongst the fans because the flames seems to be dying down a little with the boys of Blue & Gold (at least since the OU game). I think for most of us here who contribute to this site blog, if we were asked at the start of the season if ND would win at least 10 straight to start the year, I believe most of us (including myself) would have said probably unlikely. I think in BK’s 3rd year, we are pointed in the right direction. Absolutely the ST’s and O need better production (and probably a coaching change on ST’s)to be able to compete with the big dogs of CF for championships on a consistent basis. I’m happy as a fan with 10-0 start this season and a big thanks to the ND D which really dictated this up to this point. However, we still need improvement and that is always going to be on-going no matter what. From a comparitive point of view, this team compared to the last 15 or 16 teams fielded by ND,is definitely more fun to watch. Rockne, Leahy, Ara, Dan,& Lou all won NC’s in their 3rd year. Whether BK attains that only time will tell at the end of this season, though it is “probably unlikely” (and I would love to be wrong). I really enjoy this site and the many different points of view that are expressed (Frank,JC, Steelfanrob, FXM,Sad Warrior, Shazamrock, Spiceyirish and all of the others who who are on here). I hail an Irish salute to you.

    It is the Demon Deacons who need to go down next.
    Irish tsunami is building, it’s coming, wah away Wake

    Go Irishhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

    [Reply]

  • SteelFanRob commented on November 11th, 2012 at 3:48 pm

    Thanks, storespook, you’re one of our sanest!

    I agree with you on all points. I don’t see how anything you said is unreasonable. I think we don’t have a STs coach. BK has been doing that. That’s what I think is the case but I may be wrong. Regardless of who’s handling STs, they need to go or if it’s BK he needs to relinquish that role.

    Go Irsih! Beat, no destroy, Wake!!!

    [Reply]

  • fxm commented on November 11th, 2012 at 10:29 pm

    BCS is out, no surprise we are 3. But here is a quote:

    “Notre Dame is not going to jump (Oregon and Kansas State) without their help,” Palm said. “They’re way too far behind in the polls. The voters are not on board with Notre Dame.”

    KSU may lose, I can’t imagine Oregon losing. But, I didn’t think Bama would lose or that we would go to 3 OTs with Pgh.

    [Reply]

    JDH replied on November 13th, 2012 at 4:21 pm

    I actually do think Oregon and/or KState will lose one. There is certainly some wishful thinking on my part, but this has been a weeeeird year. If ND beats Wake and USC, I believe we’ll find a way to get to the title game. I can see Oregon having a bad game against Stanford or Oregon State and KState dropping one against Texas.

    GO IRISH!

    [Reply]

    SteelFanRob replied on November 13th, 2012 at 4:44 pm

    JDH,

    I don’t think there’s anything weird about it. Stanford is a tough, physical team. We’ll see how Oregon responds to that. The Civil War is at Oregon St. this year. The Beavers happen to be pretty good this season. So, no, I don’t think it would be much of an upset to see the Ducks lose one of those games. And Texas is beginning to get hot. Plus KSU didn’t looked much better than ND did last week. So, again, I don’t think it’s weird to believe UT can knock off KSU.

    [Reply]

  • Shazamrock commented on November 12th, 2012 at 10:03 am

    ND has played the 23rd most difficult schedule this year.
    That’s higher than Alabama, Kansas St, & Oregon.
    Year in and year out Notre Dame plays ONLY division 1 teams.
    So far they have defeated 4 teams ranked in the top 25.
    In 125 years of playing organized college football, only 15 of thos teams
    have ever reached 10 wins or better. (not counting this years team)

    Stare and compare: (National Champions)

    1924 / Rockne / 10-0
    1929 / Rockne / 9-0
    1930 / Rockne / 10-0
    1943 / Leahy / 9-1
    1946 / Leahy /8-0-1
    1947 / Leahy /9-0
    1949 / Leahy / 10-0
    1966 / Parsegian /9-0-1
    1973 / Parsegian / 11-0
    1977 / Devine / 11-1
    1988 / Holtz / 12-0

    Brian Kelly’s 2012 Team currently sits at 10-0 with 2 games in hand.

    History doesn’t lie.
    10-0 in 1924 is still 10-0 in 2012.

    What’s your ranking of this years team to date?

    Is it:

    Realistic?
    Delusional?
    Or just plain uneducated?

    [Reply]

  • JC commented on November 12th, 2012 at 1:22 pm

    Well Shaz,

    You damn well betch-ya, it is realistic and dead on with your FACTS and CRITICAL ANALYSIS! I remember many on this site agreeing 10 wins as the the 1st acceptable threshold endorsing BK’s effort for a successful year and program!! Well, we are definately 10 wins and Oh no!! Now it is no less than 11 or 12 wins! BS!!! Just keep your damn word, BK and the team deserve credit no matter what from here on out! Integrity is all a man has!

    You got to be blind dumb and stupid to continue nick-picking-the-shoe-laces
    off this team and BK. It is without question, time to rally around this team and BK! Thank you for your REALISTIC HISTORICAL FACTS, take a bow!

    Now that we have crossed the 10 win threshold, people will understand me better when they know I’m a big believer in RESULTS TALK and the BS WALKS! I give credit when credit is due whether we agree or disagree that is the real sane thing to do! Make no mistake ND NATION we are witnessing a new horizon in ND Football, get on the train ride!

    Here come the Irish!

    [Reply]

  • Jefffro commented on November 13th, 2012 at 4:16 am

    I hate David Gordon, I hate Boston College, I hate USC and Lane Kiffin and Pete Carroll and Reggie Bush and Matt Leinhart, I hate Michigan and every player that played there, I strongly dislike Michigan St. I don’t care for Stanford, did I mention I hate Michigan?

    [Reply]

Add A Comment

Follow UHND.com





Part of the USA Today Sports Media Group. UHND.com is a Notre Dame Football website that is not affiliated with, sponsored by, or endorsed by the University of Notre Dame © UHND.com 1997-2014