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Ah, what fine Christians they are.

Author: MAS (6455 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:16 pm on May 21, 2012

Nothing like sticking to your principles, eh?

Replies to: "Ah, what fine Christians they are."

ND suing over Obamacare - TontoGoldstein - 12:29pm 5/21/12 (64) [View All]
- I am rooting for the Govt. on this one - OCIrish - 10:52pm 5/21/12
  - More like, "If you want contraception, buy it your effing self!".... - Killshot - 12:10am 5/22/12
    - Politically he has already won this one - OCIrish - 6:54pm 5/22/12
      - . [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 8:46am 5/23/12
- The Catholic Church is not being forced to buy insurance that provides contraceptives or abortions.... - NDinTN - 5:10pm 5/21/12
  - They r being forced to tax their employees for it. Period. [NT] - Killshot - 12:11am 5/22/12
  - OK TN, let's break this down. - BaronVonZemo - 5:42pm 5/21/12
    - I pointed this out before, but it bears repeating about 100 times. - MAS - 10:21pm 5/21/12
      - Your answer can be found with Sr. Carol Keehan. - BaronVonZemo - 6:18pm 5/22/12
    - Wrong again. For your information, the Constitution is a framework for our democracy and any........ - NDinTN - 8:51pm 5/21/12
      - Good Lord! This is the danger of a failed educational system. - BaronVonZemo - 10:31pm 5/21/12
        
        Well put [NT] - Easton Pa ND Fan - 2:22am 5/22/12
      - The SCOTUS does not pass laws. [NT] - LTNDFAN - 10:10pm 5/21/12
  - You are confusing the issues. ND has a self-insured health plan. It is a Catholic organization - TontoGoldstein - 5:33pm 5/21/12
  - Give some consideration to repsonding to what Tonto posted. [NT] - LTNDFAN - 5:17pm 5/21/12
    - Tonto posted someone else's letter and I'm answering it in principle. Why don't you try to.......... - NDinTN - 5:28pm 5/21/12
      - I did and it is not relative to Tonto's post. [NT] - LTNDFAN - 5:37pm 5/21/12
- I think we can all agree the solution is to blow up Obamacare and go single payer. [NT] - ND_in_ATL - 4:53pm 5/21/12
  - Yes, blow up Obama-Care, but why single payer. Why destroy the finest HC system - LTNDFAN - 5:15pm 5/21/12
    - You mean most expensive in the world [LINK] - ND_in_ATL - 7:39am 5/22/12
      - You have made several posts. I will put my response to all of them here. [LINK] - LTNDFAN - 4:34pm 5/22/12
    - Obama's health care plan wouldn't create socialized medicine. England................ - NDinTN - 9:01pm 5/21/12
      - Did you have a lobotomy? [NT] - Easton Pa ND Fan - 2:26am 5/22/12
      - Does it cover an operation to get your head out of Obama's ass???? [NT] - ucandoit - 10:10pm 5/21/12
      - I had a lady friend who was French. She worked within the French diplomatic circle. In 1995 - LTNDFAN - 9:59pm 5/21/12
      - Obama Care if not struck down will lead to Socialized medicine. [NT] - LTNDFAN - 9:52pm 5/21/12
    - It is not the finest in the world. - MAS - 5:59pm 5/21/12
      - For acute care, it is fantastic for all. For preventative care, it needs adjustments... - BaronVonZemo - 8:02pm 5/21/12
        
        Except you, LTND, and others have never provided a single example of what you would fix and how. [LINK] - ND_in_ATL - 7:45am 5/22/12
        
        A few simple things that would save a lot of $$. - BaronVonZemo - 3:09pm 5/23/12
      - Who do you believe has a better system? By the way, I am not wealthy. [NT] - LTNDFAN - 6:01pm 5/21/12
        
        See link above. - ND_in_ATL - 7:47am 5/22/12
- Muslims have all been given an exemption from Obama-Care based on their religious beliefs. [NT] - LTNDFAN - 4:30pm 5/21/12
  - Yes I am sure they have. - Chris94 - 4:45pm 5/21/12
    - This is not news. Just Google it. It is all over the net. Over 2000 exemptions have - LTNDFAN - 5:10pm 5/21/12
      - It is true. So have the Amish. What is particularly chilling about Obama's dictatorial thinking - BaronVonZemo - 5:54pm 5/21/12
- Barry ate Jenkins for lunch 3 years ago...this will not go well for the admin. [NT] - Killshot - 3:41pm 5/21/12
  - Maybe Jenkins is "evolving":) Or is it "Flip-flopping" now that it opposes Obama's wishes? - BaronVonZemo - 4:02pm 5/21/12
- War on religion! War on women! - Chris94 - 1:32pm 5/21/12
  - You didn't answer your own "at issue" question. Your answer was a cop out. - NedoftheHill - 2:14pm 5/21/12
    - They are not being forced to violate the teachings of the Church - Chris94 - 3:04pm 5/21/12
      - "What is Caesars" was worldly money, what is God's is compliance with faith. Also,..... - BaronVonZemo - 4:08pm 5/21/12
        
        So...health insurance is faith-based, not "worldly"? - Chris94 - 4:43pm 5/21/12
        
        You TOTALLY miss the point. Complying with one's faith is "faith-based". It happens to involve.. - BaronVonZemo - 5:26pm 5/21/12
      - As an employer, any employer, I shouldn't be forced to provide any form of coverage to my employees - TontoGoldstein - 3:35pm 5/21/12
        
        Most of the time health care is part of a compensation package. - ShowMeIrish - 3:41pm 5/21/12
        
        So I'll pay everyone an extra $20k a year so they can buy their own policy. - TontoGoldstein - 3:50pm 5/21/12
        
        That would be an option - ShowMeIrish - 3:55pm 5/21/12
    - They are not forcing them to sin. - LanceHarbor - 2:26pm 5/21/12
      - They are forcing the Church out of all social ministries unless we break with our faith...or - BaronVonZemo - 2:31pm 5/21/12
        
        I thought churches and religious organization were exempt from having to cover the pill? - ShowMeIrish - 3:23pm 5/21/12
        
        #2 and #3 are the hitch...only the church on sunday itself is exempted because all other - BaronVonZemo - 3:47pm 5/21/12
        
        Why is it unfair to employees? [NT] - LanceHarbor - 2:52pm 5/21/12
        
        They would have their healthcare dropped if the church affiliated employer follows it's moral tenets [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 3:48pm 5/21/12
        
        A la Ave Maria - they dumped student coverage in its entirety. [NT] - TontoGoldstein - 3:50pm 5/21/12
        
        This is student ins and not employee and done because higher prem. - VCR - 4:13pm 5/21/12
        
        Steubenville announced that they were dropping their healthcare for their employees because of this - BaronVonZemo - 5:29pm 5/21/12
        Ah, what fine Christians they are. - MAS - 10:16pm 5/21/12
        
        What would you have them do? You assume the worst of practicing Catholics. - BaronVonZemo - 10:39pm 5/21/12
        
        I killed seven Indians before I was 18. - MAS - 10:46pm 5/21/12
        
        No, it's NOT a political point for practicing catholics, it is a MORAL point. - BaronVonZemo - 8:36am 5/23/12
        
        I suggested this to the ND GC. Not sure if they are willing to go there. Time will tell. [NT] - TontoGoldstein - 5:35pm 5/21/12
- Apparently, Jenkins will not let Obama play him for the fool twice. [LINK] - BaronVonZemo - 1:04pm 5/21/12
  - Jenkins would have been wise to read the fable of The Scorpion and The Frog. - TakethetrainKnute - 1:24pm 5/21/12