Sidestep the point, and then accuse the opponent of "you do it too!"...please stop.

Author: BaronVonZemo (4186 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 1:06 pm on Jul 15, 2012

I take your previous post as a tacit acknowledgement that my point regarding Obama and his failure to accept responsibility is correct, and that you admit it.

Now, regarding Ronaldo Magnus. I was busy with my head in books at Notre Dame during his first term in office so I didn't really pay attention as closely as I do today. Nonetheless, i can never recall him blaming Carter for the mess he inherited. I DO recall, however that he fixed the mess. He turned the economy around quickly such that by the end of his first term, there was no longer any reason to make excuses - he had already succeeded (and perhaps this is why he didn't whine - he didn't need to). On the other hand, Barry can't fix squat, and he has no ideas left. He points the finger constantly while telling people to accept defeat and that the "good old days of 4-5% unemployment are gone."

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What are Romney's most used words in his spin attempts ? [NT] - IrishmanTX1989 - 3:56pm 7/14/12 (42) [View All]
- Why do you attempt to qualify the question with surmise? - fredyo - 4:14pm 7/14/12
  - That's the best post yet for this political season. [NT] - jimbasil - 7:34pm 7/14/12
    - And one of the only ones on which we both agree wholeheartedly. [NT] - Killshot - 12:15am 7/15/12
  - "Democrat Party" - MAS - 4:37pm 7/14/12
    - It is like saying "good" when you should say "well"...it means absolutely nothing these days. - NedoftheHill - 9:10am 7/16/12
    - MAS, I'm Point, have we ever met? [NT] - Killshot - 12:16am 7/15/12
      - You're in Point and you want to meet? [NT] - MAS - 11:57am 7/15/12
    - Why? Are you attempting to dismiss the thrust of this with a nit? Taken in context, he's correct. - fredyo - 4:40pm 7/14/12
      - Like people who say, "I could care less," it's a marvelous idiot indicator. - MAS - 5:17pm 7/14/12
        
        WTF does that have to do with your "point" about running away from anyone who states Democrat Party? [NT] - fredyo - 5:23pm 7/14/12
        
        People who use certain terms or phrases give themselves away. - MAS - 5:27pm 7/14/12
        
        You mean like "abortifascient"? You love that one don't you? [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 12:27am 7/15/12
        
        That is a zealot indicator. - MAS - 11:58am 7/15/12
        
        Exactly, like when a liberal says the rich need to "pay their fair share." - Big Slick - 5:39pm 7/14/12
        
        It means the rich should pay higher marginal rates. I don't like euphemisms, either. - MAS - 5:45pm 7/14/12
        
        Which would kill any incentive to grow wealth here. Next. [NT] - Killshot - 12:17am 7/15/12
        
        Ask him exactly how "higher" the marginal rates need be in order to be "fair." - Big Slick - 9:57am 7/15/12
        
        I'm not in favor of raising income tax rates on anyone at this point, chief. - MAS - 11:55am 7/15/12
        
        Then is it fair to say that the rich, currently, are in fact paying their "fair share?" - Big Slick - 1:07pm 7/15/12
        
        Both sides presume an ideal tax rate. - MAS - 2:24pm 7/15/12
        
        Gut the IRS and the 80,000 pages of tax code and go with a national sales tax. - iairishcheeks - 2:05am 7/16/12
        
        So in your mind, an adjective should be used in place of a noun. Gotcha'. - fredyo - 5:32pm 7/14/12
        
        What, a charlatan politician? - MAS - 5:44pm 7/14/12
        
        Your post goes to the heart of the original post. That is... [LINK] - NedoftheHill - 9:43am 7/16/12
        
        Two? Romney has distinguished himself in everything he has done... - Killshot - 12:19am 7/15/12
        
        They both have, actually. - MAS - 12:04pm 7/15/12
- When did you stop beating your mother? [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 4:03pm 7/14/12
  - I never heard Romney say that, - LTNDFAN - 4:21pm 7/14/12
    - Funny, I've never heard Obama say, "It's Bush's fault." - MAS - 4:36pm 7/14/12
      - I believe the exact verbage was that he "inherited" all of the problems & he never owns up them. - BaronVonZemo - 9:44pm 7/14/12
        
        Were you similarly outraged... - MAS - 10:40pm 7/14/12
        Sidestep the point, and then accuse the opponent of "you do it too!"...please stop. - BaronVonZemo - 1:06pm 7/15/12
        
        I'm not sidestepping anything. Any fool, even you, could gather I don't like any of these guys. - MAS - 1:15pm 7/15/12
      - Of course not. He, instead, uses his sock puppet....DOH! - fredyo - 4:38pm 7/14/12
        
        Then don't respond to a question that specifically asks what Obama himself says most often... - MAS - 5:15pm 7/14/12
        
        Where in this thread did anyone accuse Obama of saying it's Bush's fault? [NT] - fredyo - 5:20pm 7/14/12
        
        It's in the thread directly below this one. It's also repeated here ad nauseum by Da Meatheads. - MAS - 5:25pm 7/14/12
        
        We have two candidates in the election.... - fredyo - 5:49pm 7/14/12
        
        No, there are multiple candidates. - MAS - 6:00pm 7/14/12
        
        "One who will appear on your ballot will be much more congruent with your beliefs. You will choose.. - fredyo - 6:27pm 7/14/12
        
        1. "We have two candidates in the election." - MAS - 8:01pm 7/14/12
        
        Of course, it is always possible that there is a 4th possibility.... - Killshot - 12:22am 7/15/12

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