And perhaps it was an ill-advised rant, but from the sidelines it seems we recruit a lot of players who just don't seem to put in the effort once they get on campus. Obviously I don't know the every day comings and goings and behind the scenes, but for ND to basically suck for 19 years is just absurd. In the end--- this is all I want. I still have the feeling of a kid waiting for the Irish to kick off the new season. I still can't sleep after wins and losses. I fear the day that apathy sets in and I don't care enough to post on an ND message board.