the graduation stats pitch doesn't apply to "tremendous student athletes"

Author: ChicagoIrish (6768 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:50 pm on Jun 5, 2012

Football players who are really focused on academics will graduate even if the school doesn't have a great academic support system.

What ND offers is resources to ensure that EVERY football player will graduate. This appeals primarily to athletes who are less academically-inclined who benefit most from our safety net of tutors, advisers, etc.

I'm typing this slowly so that you understand: promoting that we have the best graduation rates makes us more, not less, attractive to the best athletes.

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For Uncle Jemimah and JTLA [LINK] - ND_in_ATL - 12:34pm 6/5/12 (60) [View All]
- Academics, grad rates, and the post-football ND Network are it's best selling points IMO. - BaronVonZemo - 11:11pm 6/5/12
- Fair to say we are divided. And I'm in the minority on this board - JTLA - 3:47pm 6/5/12
- Why is this hard to understand? - JTLA - 1:09pm 6/5/12
  - "Outlier" is the perfect word - Charlie Jrs Headset - 3:09pm 6/5/12
    - Nobody is saying ND shouldn't strive to be a great football school as well. - ND_in_ATL - 7:00pm 6/5/12
  - Boy would Obama disagree with you. [NT] - rudidomer - 2:59pm 6/5/12
  - the graduation stats pitch doesn't apply to "tremendous student athletes" - ChicagoIrish - 2:50pm 6/5/12
  - Outliers? - ND_in_ATL - 2:13pm 6/5/12
    - I love it - JTLA - 2:22pm 6/5/12
      - It's a known fat that Holtz emphasized ND's academics while recruiting. - ND_in_ATL - 6:56pm 6/5/12
        
        "I'd get a good education." - MAS - 11:37pm 6/5/12
        
        How about this one? - ND_in_ATL - 8:38am 6/6/12
  - What you seem to fail to understand - D2 - 1:48pm 6/5/12
    - be honest - ChicagoIrish - 2:55pm 6/5/12
    - I want the kid who chooses Notre Dame for football reasons - JTLA - 2:26pm 6/5/12
      - That won't happen. Why do you think Lou Holtz was run-off? Recruits came to ND because of Holtz,.... - NDinTN - 3:21pm 6/5/12
      - As if there is something mutually exclusive about all this. - Chris94 - 2:56pm 6/5/12
        
        "ND: Where boys become men." - MAS - 11:35am 6/6/12
      - (sigh) - D2 - 2:48pm 6/5/12
    - Evidence - JTLA - 2:16pm 6/5/12
      - those facts argue against your baloney - D2 - 2:28pm 6/5/12
        
        D2 - I have never ever ever once said we aren't getting highly rated recruits - JTLA - 2:37pm 6/5/12
        
        You are making your own conclusion - D2 - 3:11pm 6/5/12
  - Lou would fundamentally disagree with your hypotheses - Chris94 - 1:39pm 6/5/12
    - And yet the SEC has won how many national championships in a row? - Charlie Jrs Headset - 3:11pm 6/5/12
      - ZERO. The SEC is a conference, not a football team or school. - seascapepro23 - 6:21pm 6/5/12
        
        You're such a tard - Charlie Jrs Headset - 9:40am 6/6/12
        
        The conference is comprised of 12 teams (now 14 I believe) and 3 of them have recently won. - seascapepro23 - 11:17pm 6/7/12
    - Nick Saban might not though. [NT] - jabbadoody5 - 2:55pm 6/5/12
    - LOL - JTLA - 1:42pm 6/5/12
      - Are you intentionally not getting this? - Rocket91 - 1:57pm 6/5/12
        
        Always? - JTLA - 2:07pm 6/5/12
        
        Just false. - Chris94 - 3:06pm 6/5/12
        
        Define "a great deal." - MAS - 11:44pm 6/5/12
        
        I base that on a few things - Chris94 - 12:56pm 6/6/12
        
        Whatever you decide holtz paid lip service to, he graduated his players - Rocket91 - 2:57pm 6/5/12
        
        keep making things up as you go - D2 - 2:11pm 6/5/12
        
        Please correct me with facts or quotes - JTLA - 2:23pm 6/5/12
        
        Did you see the quote from Lou I posted above? [NT] [LINK] - ND_in_ATL - 9:49am 6/6/12
        
        Back up your own bullshit - D2 - 2:27pm 6/5/12
        
        Rockne & Leahy - MAS - 11:59pm 6/5/12
        
        Yep, what happened with 1920s and 1940-50s is really relevant today - D2 - 1:52pm 6/6/12
        
        I wasn't saying it is, Chester. - MAS - 2:32pm 6/6/12
        
        ditto - D2 - 3:40pm 6/6/12
      - Just quoting Lou. - Chris94 - 1:51pm 6/5/12
        
        Lou Holtz - JTLA - 2:09pm 6/5/12
  - False Choice - Flanner525 - 1:20pm 6/5/12
    - Flanner I was with you for years - JTLA - 2:28pm 6/5/12
      - I would... - Flanner525 - 3:37pm 6/5/12
    - As shown by their success in the NFL? [NT] - JTLA - 1:40pm 6/5/12
      - Fallacy of False Cause - Flanner525 - 1:51pm 6/5/12
- Wait - someone actually thought that? Really? - Chris94 - 12:47pm 6/5/12
  - Why change anything? - JTLA - 1:10pm 6/5/12
    - That is of course not what I asked - Chris94 - 1:40pm 6/5/12
      - Almost correct - JTLA - 1:57pm 6/5/12
        
        None of what you state is part of the mission at Notre Dame..... [LINK] - NKYDomer - 5:36pm 6/5/12

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