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Can you explain what is "above average" about the ND football program?

Author: MAS (6455 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:14 am on Jun 15, 2012

Perhaps more importantly, what does "average" look like to you?

Replies to: "Can you explain what is "above average" about the ND football program?"

Cooks: “We wanted to match up with USC and Michigan - AAA - 9:38am 6/15/12 (50) [View All]
- Hahahaha [NT] - ImWearingJeanShorts - 7:08pm 6/16/12
- Sparty is the best team in the state, not your boys from Walmart. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 1:11pm 6/15/12
  - Sparty sucks [NT] - seascapepro23 - 1:33pm 6/15/12
    - Nobody sucks more than Michigan, except maybe their conference affiliate Jerry Sandusky. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 2:45pm 6/15/12
- I love that Michigan fans think they are on the same level as the USC's of the world - Rocket91 - 11:46am 6/15/12
  - I like your thinking here. [NT] - Chrisb - 4:14pm 6/15/12
    - Was it the "every lucky bounce" part? - MAS - 12:36pm 6/16/12
  - Would you agree that, but for the cheating, ND would be superior to USC? - MAS - 11:51am 6/15/12
    - I think playing against any team that is cheating makes things harder - Rocket91 - 12:04pm 6/15/12
      - What's no longer "cute." - MAS - 12:31pm 6/15/12
        
        Re: What's no longer "cute." - Rooster - 11:50pm 6/15/12
        
        Well, of course I'm correct. - MAS - 12:27pm 6/16/12
        
        Every program? What is wrong with you? - Rocket91 - 2:56pm 6/15/12
        
        No, I don't think Michigan has reached elite status. - MAS - 3:22pm 6/15/12
        
        You get into the glue supply a little earlier than usual today? [NT] - ShowMeIrish - 2:50pm 6/15/12
        
        "Looks like I picked the wrong weekend to stop sniffing glue." [NT] - MAS - 3:22pm 6/15/12
  - I agree 100%; the reckoning is coming [NT] - ChicagoIrish - 11:50am 6/15/12
- Ann Arbor Asshole [NT] - ChicagoIrish - 11:20am 6/15/12
- Enough with the Michigan lovefest... - Vstorm07 - 11:00am 6/15/12
  - It aint love... - AAA - 6:00pm 6/15/12
  - Can you explain what is "above average" about the ND football program? - MAS - 11:14am 6/15/12
    - I said above average team with a substandard QB...translates to around average on the whole. [NT] - Vstorm07 - 11:52am 6/15/12
      - Well, that and the turnovers. - MAS - 11:59am 6/15/12
        
        Who was responsible for over 75% of those turnovers? - IrishfaninTX - 11:58pm 6/16/12
        
        who is arguing this? - ChicagoIrish - 1:35pm 6/15/12
        
        Who is arguing that cheating and rotten luck are to blame for these losses? - MAS - 2:09pm 6/15/12
    - there are 121 FBS programs, I'd say we're safely above average in most categories - ChicagoIrish - 11:35am 6/15/12
      - Got it. For decades, being "above average" at ND meant being in the top 10. - MAS - 11:42am 6/15/12
        
        If you think that's what above avg still means at ND, you're crazy. Also, if you don't think BK's - JDriveSthND - 8:30pm 6/15/12
        
        I agree that UM has a similar talent level. - MAS - 12:33pm 6/16/12
        
        Seems to me you guys are talking about different populations - Flanner525 - 1:50pm 6/15/12
        
        Indeed we are. - MAS - 2:03pm 6/15/12
        
        Well since he was talking about Michigan first - Flanner525 - 2:23pm 6/15/12
        
        Mostly because I do not agree that ND is that close to UM at this point. - MAS - 2:28pm 6/15/12
        
        Threve steps ahead of us - Flanner525 - 2:40pm 6/15/12
        
        Got it, quarterback is the crucial variable. - MAS - 3:24pm 6/15/12
        
        correct - ChicagoIrish - 1:54pm 6/15/12
        
        Re: Got it. For decades, being "above average" at ND meant being in the top 10. - ChicagoIrish - 11:50am 6/15/12
        
        Ah, so it's ND's above average status in committing turnovers that is holding it back? - MAS - 11:53am 6/15/12
        
        enlighten us as to the full list of arbitrary categories, please - ChicagoIrish - 1:33pm 6/15/12
        
        Incorrect. - MAS - 2:22pm 6/15/12
        
        (Insert obligatory talking point: "Times have changed, things are different now.") [NT] - MAS - 11:43am 6/15/12
        
        if you close your eyes and wish hard enough, that straw man might come to life [NT] - ChicagoIrish - 11:51am 6/15/12
        
        Don't you hate when someone anticipates what you're going to say? [NT] - MAS - 12:00pm 6/15/12
        
        I do not. It usually means I'm communicating clearly. - ChicagoIrish - 1:55pm 6/15/12
- So losing two players who would have been true freshmen is the difference? - ND_in_ATL - 10:47am 6/15/12
  - Re: So losing two players who would have been true freshmen is the difference? - AAA - 5:47pm 6/15/12
    - Yeah, Tee was all Kelly's fault - IrishfaninTX - 11:50pm 6/16/12
  - Diaco's love for soft zone coverage and limited blitzing does nothing to help a mostly slow defensi - WestCoastIrishFan - 11:05am 6/15/12
    - Slaughter and Jackson are slow? - ND_in_ATL - 11:29am 6/15/12