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Recruiting Never Ends - March 19 Update - Lawnmower8 - 9:53am 3/19/10 (7) [View All]
- BK really going after a RB, it seems. Has sights set high generally. In keeping with his style. [NT] - EWALD - 12:41pm 3/19/10
  - Re: BK really going after a RB, it seems. Has sights set high generally. In keeping with his styl - kansirkid - 1:03pm 3/19/10
    - I think you have to defer to the coaches on these type of decisions. [NT] - EWALD - 1:22pm 3/19/10
      - The coach had rationale for his decision, EWALD - bob drake - 3:12pm 3/19/10
        
        At least in part to get the ball in his hands more often. [NT] - EWALD - 3:53pm 3/19/10
- BK needs to offer more CA kids [NT] - FUSC22 - 11:46am 3/19/10
- So we are still in with D Grant? [NT] - dirtdickens - 10:20am 3/19/10
Kelly, Martin and the Staff Seem to have a pretty good Junior Day lined up [NT] [LINK] - franksboy - 1:25am 3/19/10 (3) [View All]
- Lemming is a ND lap-dog and has been known to over inflate ND targets. But then again it gets him - whatsamataU - 9:42am 3/19/10
- Re: Kelly, Martin and the Staff Seem to have a pretty good Junior Day lined up [NT] [IMAGE] - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 7:56am 3/19/10
  - Loopka Bubka the Czech world record place kicker & gymnast??? [NT] - whatsamataU - 9:47am 3/19/10
Whitehurst move guarantees Jimmy goes top 5 - dirtdickens - 9:57pm 3/18/10 (27) [View All]
- Jimmy will go round 2 because he's immature, and not very good. Golden will go before Jimmy. [NT] - euphy - 3:14pm 3/19/10
  - Actually the opposite is happening. - dirtdickens - 4:17pm 3/19/10
  - Jimmy very hard to judge. Some real pluses, some uncertainties. Had great college coaching. [NT] - EWALD - 3:54pm 3/19/10
- Ryan Perrilloux will be the first QB taken by the Raiders...mark it down [NT] - ShowMeIrish - 1:37pm 3/19/10
  - You never know with Al Davis [NT] - EWALD - 3:55pm 3/19/10
- who cares...jimmy C is a pussy [NT] - FUSC22 - 11:48am 3/19/10
  - Biggest idiot statement in years...... - Domer From Hell - 12:09pm 3/19/10
    - haha i dont give a shit, im glad he's gone. Christ will be better anyways [NT] - FUSC22 - 3:36pm 3/19/10
    - I think he was just making fun of McShay for saying that - dirtdickens - 12:18pm 3/19/10
      - I hope so [NT] - Domer From Hell - 12:20pm 3/19/10
- Your logic assumes that Clausen goes before Bradford - franksboy - 1:19am 3/19/10
  - I clearly said the Rams will take Bradford - dirtdickens - 6:12am 3/19/10
    - When I was in DC two weeks ago, the local media seemed set on Jimmy IMO [NT] - McSweeney - 2:05pm 3/19/10
      - That is what I was affraid of - dirtdickens - 3:16pm 3/19/10
    - No way Holmgren drafts Clausen - ND_in_ATL - 9:13am 3/19/10
      - There is only one QB next year - dirtdickens - 9:17am 3/19/10
        
        You are deluded if you think Clausen is being evaluated as a "franchise" qb. - D2 - 10:58am 3/19/10
        
        It's not delusion. It's a fact. - McSweeney - 2:07pm 3/19/10
        
        We'll see [NT] - D2 - 2:49pm 3/19/10
        
        You are either joking or missing a chromosome. - dirtdickens - 11:48am 3/19/10
        
        What about Jake Locker? - ND_in_ATL - 9:28am 3/19/10
        
        He is a project at best. - dirtdickens - 9:38am 3/19/10
- not quite sure I get your logic - D2 - 10:48pm 3/18/10
  - I don't either - ND_in_ATL - 9:09am 3/19/10
    - McCoy? - D2 - 10:55am 3/19/10
      - Gerald McCoy, dipset [NT] - dirtdickens - 11:48am 3/19/10
        
        How is Gerald McCoy going to play QB? - Tongal - 11:59am 3/19/10
Michigan / ND Night Game in 2011 Are we hypocrites? - Leahy - 7:28pm 3/18/10 (12) [View All]
- How easy would it be for us to refuse to play at UM at a time they want? [NT] - EWALD - 12:45pm 3/19/10
- Profit without liability - Domer81 - 12:20pm 3/19/10
  - Does ND get TV revenues from away games? - Iggle - 2:42pm 3/19/10
  - 100% spot on. - clements2 - 12:39pm 3/19/10
- We do not have night games because the Admin is made up of puritanical sissies - Hank Scorpio - 9:54am 3/19/10
- ND can't tell other schools what to do with their games and their stadiums. - McSweeney - 9:16am 3/19/10
- TN has night games all the time and it's a big revenue boost for the local economy. Fans come to.... - NDinTN - 9:16pm 3/18/10
  - Explain something -- in a way that doesn't make you sound like a redneck moron. - jakers - 10:54am 3/19/10
  - I do not trust the judgement of any school that appropriates a square-dancing song as its fight song - McSweeney - 10:39am 3/19/10
  - Because it's past their collective bed times. [NT] - AlbanyIRISH - 9:49pm 3/18/10
- I remember when the SEC took the initiative to have more featured night games - NDRacehorse - 8:13pm 3/18/10
- Instead of going to a night game at ND and driving, hitching a ride or taking a cab home.... - Jack Daniels - 7:46pm 3/18/10
What can be done about the 2009 helmet schedule at the top of the page? [NT] - ND4EVR - 7:06pm 3/18/10 (1) [View All]
- Re: What can be done about the 2009 helmet schedule at the top of the page? - Jack Daniels - 7:17pm 3/18/10
Riddick To WR Makes Sense Watching Him In High School - Flannigan44 - 6:21pm 3/18/10 (0) [View All]
ESPN reports that Michigan schedules 2011 night game against ND [LINK] - JTLA - 2:58pm 3/18/10 (4) [View All]
- Nice for DickRod to comment... - McSweeney - 3:49pm 3/18/10
  - Good call [NT] - EWALD - 12:46pm 3/19/10
- Wake me when ND does the same. [NT] - AlbanyIRISH - 3:18pm 3/18/10
  - But if it that happens, college students might consume alcohol!!!??? - Hank Scorpio - 9:26pm 3/18/10
Anyone have any ideas on how to incorporate a playoff system in college football? [NT] - ShowMeIrish - 11:50am 3/18/10 (9) [View All]
- It's SIMPLE - ndlanz - 11:06pm 3/18/10
- IMO, we've beat that horse to death, pro and con. Let's move on. [NT] - NDinTN - 1:32pm 3/18/10
  - Whhoooooooshhhh.... [NT] - jvw0ef - 3:11pm 3/18/10
- I don't think too much about it really. [NT] - McSweeney - 12:02pm 3/18/10
  - I have a similar passion for removing the helmets from the top of the page [NT] - ShowMeIrish - 12:13pm 3/18/10
    - Did you know there's a grammatical error on the Open? [NT] - KCIrishfan - 1:40pm 3/18/10
      - Your joking wright? [NT] - ShowMeIrish - 1:47pm 3/18/10
        
        i do'nt follow [NT] - sham - 2:27pm 3/18/10
        
        It's not just you're problem - it's hours. [NT] - Tenacious_P - 7:33pm 3/18/10
A playoff IS possible within the current college football schedule. - McSweeney - 10:40am 3/18/10 (26) [View All]
- It's possible. But not desirable, IMO. [IMAGE] - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 10:59am 3/18/10
  - I stand by my claim that if/when we get it, you'll join me on the Dark Side. [IMAGE] - jakers - 11:11am 3/18/10
    - If the time comes, I know no regular season college game will ever match ND/Miami '88. - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 1:05pm 3/18/10
      - I can argue with you that in the B.C.S. era, that game may not have meant as much. - jakers - 2:58pm 3/18/10
        
        Not at the time. - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 4:10pm 3/18/10
        
        Oh, I don't know about that. - jakers - 4:32pm 3/18/10
        
        Good thing I'm not advocating for the BCS system. - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 4:45pm 3/18/10
        
        And while I'm here, I'll state again for the record... - jakers - 5:05pm 3/18/10
        
        I would miss the monumental September, October, and even November match ups that we've enjoyed . . . - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 5:27pm 3/18/10
        
        This goes back to my point about a 14-seed playoff versus a 16-seed - McSweeney - 1:41pm 3/19/10
        
        The problem is "meaning something" doesn't necessarily mean enough. - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 3:05pm 3/19/10
        
        I just don't think it'd have mattered, bro. - jakers - 4:56pm 3/18/10
        
        OT: saw a replay of '88 SC game recently; our fanbase's recollection of that game is very skewed. - McSweeney - 9:49am 3/19/10
        
        I've never watched a full replay. - jakers - 10:08am 3/19/10
        
        You mean THIS pass? [LINK] - McSweeney - 10:16am 3/19/10
        
        Hypothetically, we could have been in a re-match with Miami anyway. - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 5:23pm 3/18/10
        
        In addition, Miami would have played Colorado in '89 and we'd be a total non-factor in the NC race. - McSweeney - 3:47pm 3/18/10
        
        The BCS would have delivered a less savory result in '89? Okay. Consider '88 with your 14-team - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 4:35pm 3/18/10
        
        I really don't understand any of your points here. - McSweeney - 9:11am 3/19/10
        
        My point was specific and simple. - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 9:23am 3/19/10
        
        Interesting point unrelated to our B.C.S./Playoff discussion. - jakers - 9:38am 3/19/10
        
        I remember Matt Cryer crying after the FSU/ND game. - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 3:12pm 3/19/10
        
        You shouldn't. - jakers - 4:34pm 3/18/10
        
        You made my counter-argument for me. - McSweeney - 9:14am 3/19/10
    - It would be the best post season in the history of post seasons - ND_in_ATL - 1:04pm 3/18/10
      - Post-season would be great. No question. - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 1:08pm 3/18/10
questions on the 13 team - Big Slick - 9:36am 3/18/10 (0) [View All]
is there a published list of attendees for this weekends Jr Day?? - whatsamataU - 9:07am 3/18/10 (3) [View All]
- BEST resource I've found... [LINK] - JTLA - 1:25pm 3/18/10
- How about a published list of athletes enrolled in the architecture program? [NT] - Hank Scorpio - 9:17am 3/18/10
  - Got that one! I just can't find the list of Vietnamese Nationals who plan on attending in 2011. [NT] - whatsamataU - 10:19am 3/18/10
Can we get an over/under line for dollar bet on date that helmet banner will be removed.. - westcoast - 1:23am 3/18/10 (6) [View All]
- Or maybe an over/under on how many times board mods have to explain why they're still there? - McSweeney - 8:56am 3/18/10
  - So... you're saying that this will be the summer of our dis-content? [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 1:03pm 3/18/10
    - Excellent. [NT] - TheIrishHammer - 2:11pm 3/18/10
  - I WRITE THE ARTICLES, I DON'T GET PAID!!! - saNDiego03 - 12:05pm 3/18/10
  - Sorry Mc this was my failed attempt at a little humor but maybe a few others missed this info [NT] - westcoast - 10:57am 3/18/10
  - I've counted 57...... [NT] - weisguy19 - 9:11am 3/18/10
Say prayers for Bill Mc Andrew --friend - Thanks for prayers - WhiskeyIrish - 10:45pm 3/17/10 (0) [View All]
Some good news on the recruiting front....One of the top DE's from Florida has us #1 [LINK] - NEIrishFan - 6:13pm 3/17/10 (15) [View All]
- Apparently you haven't lived thru the "Notre Dame is my top choice" experience - OHIrish - 3:24pm 3/18/10
- Yeah that's all good until they commit early and then de-commit in January [NT] - bakedogg - 3:04pm 3/18/10
- A good sign even if we only get a few commits. A few 4* here and 5* there and you've got a winner [NT] - NDinTN - 1:30pm 3/18/10
- Trattou and Hunter had us number 1 also....just a matter of time before he gets an offer from FLA [NT] - Goirish69 - 11:12am 3/18/10
- there once was a DE from California who had us #1in 2010 also - but.......................... [NT] - whatsamataU - 10:23am 3/18/10
- The guy has offers from LSU, Alabama, Ohio State, FSU, Miami... - Chris94 - 9:19pm 3/17/10
  - Yep. - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 8:02am 3/18/10
  - Exactamundo. [NT] - AlbanyIRISH - 10:06pm 3/17/10
- Been noticing a lot of movement in FL !!! - JTLA - 8:43pm 3/17/10
- And the source is Bleacher Report? [NT] - Hank Scorpio - 8:40pm 3/17/10
- Re: Some good news on the recruiting front....One of the top DE's from Florida has us #1 - kansirkid - 8:24pm 3/17/10
  - The hype is from Lynch. - jimbasil - 10:07pm 3/17/10
- I guess Kelly can recruit a little. [NT] - AlbanyIRISH - 6:28pm 3/17/10
  - supposedly so could cw but lets & see what happens in Feb. 2011 [NT] - whatsamataU - 10:25am 3/18/10
  - Nope. Florida belongs to Alford. [NT] - seascapepro23 - 12:57am 3/18/10
Smile... great quote re Kiffin from the Bleacher Report... - Pipeline - 2:00pm 3/17/10 (0) [View All]
If ND joined the Big-10/11, how would you guys see the divisional layout .... - WRDomer - 1:00pm 3/17/10 (20) [View All]
- I might stomach the move if ND, Penn St., and Syracuse were in the same division. - AlbanyIRISH - 6:27pm 3/17/10
  - You're missing the point. The Big Ten's teams are by-and-large regional, but its influence is not. - McSweeney - 10:05am 3/18/10
    - You're starting to convince me... - Toro - 12:26pm 3/18/10
      - Are you really concerned about lacrosse or just yanking my chain? [LINK] - McSweeney - 1:57pm 3/18/10
        
        I am a huge lacrosse fan... - Toro - 9:00am 3/19/10
- Let's try this again with OSU with Michigan - foreverirish - 5:00pm 3/17/10
  - I'm afraid ND would get stuck in the east div. with PSU, OSU, MI, IU and PU. Not a good fit for ND [NT] - NDinTN - 1:40pm 3/18/10
  - Flip flop Purdue and Wisco and you pretty much maintain all rivalries as intradivisional games - McSweeney - 8:20pm 3/17/10
- Why not separate Ohio State and Michigan? - foreverirish - 1:39pm 3/17/10
  - Same reason you don't separate OU/Texas, Auburn/Bama - McSweeney - 2:05pm 3/17/10
    - What about FSU-Miami? - ND_in_ATL - 6:25pm 3/17/10
    - the traditions of those programs are not to be touched, but ours are easily compromised? [NT] - ChicagoIrish - 3:48pm 3/17/10
    - I agree with your last point about them playing back to back. - wrdomerson - 2:45pm 3/17/10
      - Why? Back to back OSU-UM games would be best for the Big10 - ChicagoIrish - 3:18pm 3/17/10
      - Permanent interdivisional rivalries aren't ideal - McSweeney - 2:56pm 3/17/10
        
        If they did it right, they may be able to avoid that particular situation. - wrdomerson - 9:34am 3/18/10
        
        Yeah, there are actually several examples that refute my argument. - McSweeney - 9:55am 3/18/10
  - Because they play every year at the end of the season.... - WRDomer - 2:01pm 3/17/10
- first Question will it be a north /South or East/West - OhioIrish11 - 1:13pm 3/17/10
  - Holy crap, did you just respond to a post? - McSweeney - 1:27pm 3/17/10
here is one reason league affiliation could expand again - OhioIrish11 - 12:46pm 3/17/10 (6) [View All]
- It's all about money - foreverirish - 1:47pm 3/17/10
  - That's idiotic. You can't blame ND's football financial situation on the Catholic Church [NT] - NDinTN - 2:06pm 3/17/10
    - Absolutely no one misses a point or a joke better than you. [NT] - jakers - 2:47pm 3/17/10
      - Grow up and act your age junior. [NT] - NDinTN - 8:59pm 3/17/10
        
        Superb comeback. [NT] - jakers - 10:16am 3/18/10
- Finally someone with the guts to say it. [NT] - DUBose80 - 1:09pm 3/17/10
Notre Dame Maxwell winners - OhioIrish11 - 12:25pm 3/17/10 (5) [View All]
- Maxwell winners ---> [LINK] - wrdomerson - 12:32pm 3/17/10
  - thanks [NT] - OhioIrish11 - 12:43pm 3/17/10
    - no problem [NT] - wrdomerson - 2:48pm 3/17/10
- Delete [NT] - Slacker - 12:30pm 3/17/10
  - Rocket did not....Quinn did [NT] - OhioIrish11 - 12:43pm 3/17/10
questions on the 92 team - OhioIrish11 - 12:22pm 3/17/10 (5) [View All]
- Bill Walsh spent four years putting together the game plan - blowfish - 9:57am 3/18/10
- Please, please get off this board. [NT] - jakers - 2:45pm 3/17/10
- Re: questions on the 92 team - ndunabomber - 1:08pm 3/17/10
  - thanks for the info--. wow we were talented [NT] - OhioIrish11 - 1:14pm 3/17/10
- Delete and Ban Brooks92/Oliver [NT] - Slacker - 12:30pm 3/17/10
Erin Go Braugh! [NT] - McSweeney - 8:19am 3/17/10 (2) [View All]
- Ike & Jonesy's for a cold one today? [NT] - EastCoastKid - 8:52am 3/17/10
  - Thanks but no thanks. Hanging tough on the no-booze-for-Lent thing. - McSweeney - 8:55am 3/17/10
UHND Tourney Pick 'Em [LINK] - jabbadoody5 - 7:04am 3/17/10 (0) [View All]
When is notre dames pro day? And who will be working out. - ndhawaii - 12:18am 3/17/10 (2) [View All]
- Re: When is notre dames pro day? And who will be working out. - tgolden33 - 6:14pm 3/17/10
- Re: When is notre dames pro day? And who will be working out. - freshhorses - 2:33am 3/17/10
When is notre dames pro day? And who will be working out. - ndhawaii - 12:18am 3/17/10 (0) [View All]
Reasonable ESPN Q&A on ND and the Big East & Conferences - franksboy - 9:06pm 3/16/10 (0) [View All]
Okay then, how about this "playoff"? - McSweeney - 1:08pm 3/16/10 (33) [View All]
- E. Gordon Gee, the Vanderbilt reformer, now at Ohio State, on a football playoff: [LINK] - clementsfan - 7:19pm 3/16/10
  - Awesome. [NT] - Chris94 - 5:16pm 3/17/10
  - "Championships should be decided by competition, not conspiracy." --Michael Young, U-Utah President [LINK] - McSweeney - 8:43am 3/17/10
    - Boise and Utah are not BCS schools; Ohio State is. - clementsfan - 7:10pm 3/17/10
      - Gee didn't make such a distinction in his statement. - ND_in_ATL - 1:08pm 3/18/10
      - Holy cripes, you're just like NDinTN, changing arguments in midstream. - McSweeney - 8:15pm 3/17/10
    - Everything is a conspiracy. Probably a foreign guy on a grassy knoll with a clipboard deciding the NC [NT] - NDinTN - 3:40pm 3/17/10
      - Yeah, probably. Well said. [NT] - McSweeney - 4:20pm 3/17/10
  - McSweeney: Read this flat out rejection of the playoff system by OSU President. I told you so. [NT] - NDinTN - 9:39pm 3/16/10
    - He's not the final authority on the matter. [NT] - jakers - 10:48am 3/17/10
      - He's a BCS-stooge spouting the party-line. But it IS the BCS's party-line. [NT] - clementsfan - 7:14pm 3/17/10
    - You didn't tell me jack shit. In fact, this only proves my point. - McSweeney - 8:35am 3/17/10
      - What would happen to your playoff system if several conferences pulled out and the teams didn't..... - NDinTN - 2:44pm 3/17/10
        
        Then they get left behind. - ND_in_ATL - 1:11pm 3/18/10
        
        Who are you talking to? - McSweeney - 4:03pm 3/17/10
        
        Your post is nothing but a barrage of stupidity, bad logic, and ignorance. - jakers - 3:13pm 3/17/10
        
        You can bitch and complain all you want but it ain't going to happen. Too much time and $ involved.. - NDinTN - 3:52pm 3/17/10
        
        I heard Clausen's a lock to commit to U.T. What are you hearing? - jakers - 4:04pm 3/17/10
        
        *crickets* [NT] - ND_in_ATL - 1:11pm 3/18/10
  - Re: E. Gordon Gee, the Vanderbilt reformer, now at Ohio State, on a football playoff: - kansirkid - 8:06pm 3/16/10
- I prefer this version... - Gen - 5:11pm 3/16/10
  - One more provision - MarkHarman - 9:00pm 3/16/10
    - There's a fine between inclusiveness and stupidity - McSweeney - 8:53am 3/17/10
- A playoff is the only fair solution - foreverirish - 5:02pm 3/16/10
  - You do realize my actual solution is a playoff, right? - McSweeney - 10:11am 3/18/10
- Big 12 has more of a connection to the Orange than the Cotton - KCIrishfan - 4:25pm 3/16/10
- Good try but no cigar. Let #1 play #2, #3 play #4, #5 play #6, and #7 play #8. No contractual....... - NDinTN - 2:28pm 3/16/10
  - Good try but no cigar. Any playofff that minimizes the BCS conferences won't ever happen. - McSweeney - 3:51pm 3/16/10
    - and any playoff that doesn't include the mid-majors is subject to a lawsuit - ND_in_ATL - 4:14pm 3/16/10
- Don't like it. [NT] - wrdomerson - 2:11pm 3/16/10
- I hate the idea of a Plus 1. - jakers - 1:51pm 3/16/10
  - Yeah, that's kind of an obvious problem. Oh well. [NT] - McSweeney - 3:48pm 3/16/10
  - I agree, in some years a Plus 1 is not needed - ND_in_ATL - 2:29pm 3/16/10
Seantrel Henderson was academically cleared last week and now plans to sign a letter of intent [LINK] - whatsamataU - 11:45pm 3/15/10 (13) [View All]
- Re: Seantrel Henderson was academically cleared last week and now plans to sign a letter of intent - kansirkid - 6:26pm 3/16/10
  - Funny - WoodstockIrish - 4:35pm 3/17/10
  - It's called the NCAA minimum [NT] - D2 - 11:29am 3/17/10
- Is this a sign USC will not receive significant penalties for their infractions? - jimbasil - 11:12am 3/16/10
  - maybe.but it's also a sign he was one of ND's 9 football recruiting exceptions a year...... [NT] - whatsamataU - 3:27pm 3/16/10
  - I think more of a life style choice for his parents - D2 - 12:57pm 3/16/10
  - No he didnt have a qualifying score until last week* [NT] - jabi - 11:16am 3/16/10
    - So his not signing because of possible sanctions was pure bullshit. [NT] - syririshfan - 1:35pm 3/16/10
      - Also, any team that gets put onto probation their current recruits can opt out of LOI. [NT] - Blickster - 6:47am 3/17/10
      - this was always about his father pimping his kid (imo). - franksboy - 11:29pm 3/16/10
        
        What would the name of the reality show have been if he had chosen ND? [NT] - WoodstockIrish - 4:36pm 3/17/10
      - In my opinion....Yes! [NT] - jabi - 6:44pm 3/16/10
      - Possibly... - Toro - 2:16pm 3/16/10
Way to go, whoever it was that signed up for the Pick 'Em as "Bracket1" [NT] - jabbadoody5 - 12:05pm 3/15/10 (5) [View All]
- Re: Way to go, whoever it was that signed up for the Pick 'Em as "Bracket1" - Babagadose - 6:10pm 3/16/10
- Maybe it was Gary Bracket [NT] - ShowMeIrish - 2:42pm 3/15/10
  - And not his grandson, Bracket3 [NT] - Chris94 - 11:47am 3/16/10
  - Yeah, like he's hurting for spare change these days [NT] - McSweeney - 3:34pm 3/15/10
  - good point [NT] - sham - 3:11pm 3/15/10
BQ leaves Cleveland with a lot of class (link) [NT] [LINK] - EWALD - 11:12am 3/15/10 (17) [View All]
- Not surprising, he's the antithesis of DA - ndAZ - 2:34pm 3/15/10
  - Flag football and coaching are filled with smart, hard-working guys [NT] - WestCoastIrishFan - 5:12pm 3/15/10
    - Don't I know it. - jabbadoody5 - 7:50pm 3/15/10
      - I'm guessing your # is 69, which is shared by your softball jersey. [NT] - WestCoastIrishFan - 8:53pm 3/15/10
        
        Yep. It would also be my basketball #, but I play in a mormon league and they banned that number. [NT] - jabbadoody5 - 10:28pm 3/15/10
    - . [NT] - WestCoastIrishFan - 5:13pm 3/15/10
  - At least as far as arm strength goes. [NT] - LanceHarbor - 3:40pm 3/15/10
    - As far as attributes that make a good NFL QB, arm strength is down the list. [NT] - franka - 3:55pm 3/15/10
      - Arm strength is by far the most important quality for a QB, . . [IMAGE] - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 6:20pm 3/15/10
      - I agree with you 100%. Accuracy is the most important which is why Quinn isn't that good. - LanceHarbor - 3:59pm 3/15/10
        
        I always thought BQ was too muscle bound up top and it affected his accuracy some. He needed to be - franka - 2:51pm 3/16/10
        
        Samardzija made up for a lot of Quinn's inaccuracy. [NT] - Laramie - 5:57pm 3/15/10
        
        You mean the jump ball pass doesnt work in the NFL? - jabi - 10:25pm 3/15/10
        
        I felt like Quinn threw behind the receivers on most slants. Drove me nuts. [NT] - Laramie - 9:45am 3/16/10
        
        Yeah, I'd totally put you in the same little bitch category, so don't worry GayHarbor [NT] - ndAZ - 4:34pm 3/15/10
        
        Because he said that BQ isn't accurate? - jabbadoody5 - 8:03pm 3/15/10
        
        Not to make excuses for him - dirtdickens - 10:47am 3/16/10
EWALD, you're pushing 4,500 posts and you really can't figure what the Open Forum is for? - McSweeney - 10:58am 3/15/10 (6) [View All]
- yassuh, massah kabong! [NT] - clementsfan - 8:47pm 3/15/10
- Why don't we just ban this fucker and be done with it...? [NT] - Chrisb - 11:27am 3/15/10
  - Glad you're safe, fella. Thanks for that trip you made. [NT] - clementsfan - 8:48pm 3/15/10
- I was with you until "stupid", Really, is there a need for that? Can't we all be civil? [NT] - EWALD - 11:13am 3/15/10
  - "Insipid"? [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 2:12pm 3/15/10
  - In most cases...no, but.... [NT] - Hank Scorpio - 11:32am 3/15/10
As I watched the tourney pairings being announced, I thought of a different playoff idea for fball - McSweeney - 10:45am 3/15/10 (52) [View All]
- This thread might set a record for bullshit straw man arguments - McSweeney - 9:48am 3/16/10
  - Don't give up your day job. I can see why the NCAA hasn't contacted you and probably won't ever call [NT] - NDinTN - 3:14pm 3/16/10
    - You gotta love an "NT" reply to an email that 100% deconstructs everything you said in thread below. - McSweeney - 4:03pm 3/16/10
- Re: As I watched the tourney pairings being announced, I thought of a different playoff idea for fball - NDSoxfan - 7:21am 3/16/10
  - Who cares? The problem with the BCS has nothing to do with the #14 seed. - McSweeney - 9:05am 3/16/10
- Do you really think ND's Administration would sacrifice academics to participate in a 16 team........ - NDinTN - 9:28pm 3/15/10
  - The academic argument is weak. - AlbanyIRISH - 10:00pm 3/15/10
    - How many bowl games has James-Madison, Colgate, New Hampshire, Harvard and William and Mary been in? - NDinTN - 2:49pm 3/16/10
      - When ND goes to a bowl, they practice through final exams. - AlbanyIRISH - 5:57pm 3/16/10
    - Bingo. Academics is another strawman argument - McSweeney - 9:00am 3/16/10
  - So if the bball team wins the 1st 2 games in the tourney it should just quit? - ND_in_ATL - 9:50pm 3/15/10
    - It's not just 4 more games. It's four more weeks of practice through final exams, plus the added.... - NDinTN - 2:39pm 3/16/10
      - Several falsehoods - ND_in_ATL - 5:07pm 3/16/10
- Jesus, McSweeney, follow the effing BCS money! You're not getting a playoff! That's that. - clementsfan - 8:40pm 3/15/10
  - Where'd you go? [NT] - jakers - 9:48am 3/16/10
    - Couple of serious illnesses and work. All the losses didn't help, either. - clementsfan - 7:13pm 3/16/10
  - What sucks is a playoff would generate much more money for the schools than the current system - ND_in_ATL - 9:47pm 3/15/10
    - Not true. Look at how the basketball money is divided. - clementsfan - 6:21pm 3/16/10
    - You forget that bowl games pump a lot of money into the local economies and they aren't about to.... - NDinTN - 3:09pm 3/16/10
      - A playoff system is a "hair-brain idea"? - ND_in_ATL - 5:02pm 3/16/10
        
        The conferences, schools and bowl games committees think it's a "hair brain" idea and they like..... - NDinTN - 9:33pm 3/16/10
    - Actually, it would generate more money for all schools, but not the current B.C.S. ones. - jakers - 9:46am 3/16/10
- Just expand to 16 teams - ND_in_ATL - 2:23pm 3/15/10
  - "how is 4 rounds in fb a logistical nightmare, whereas 6 rounds in basketball is no problem at all?" - McSweeney - 3:30pm 3/15/10
    - You don't think every team in the country would sell out a 1st round home game? - ND_in_ATL - 3:39pm 3/15/10
      - The first game is not the problem. Playing on homefields is not the problem. - McSweeney - 5:11pm 3/15/10
        
        I think 1st 2 rounds, home field. Last 2 rounds nuetral site. - ND_in_ATL - 5:29pm 3/15/10
- Very similar to the proposal I've been making for years - foreverirish - 12:41pm 3/15/10
  - Yep, yep, yep. So simple to do. - jakers - 1:54pm 3/15/10
    - I still say 14 is better than 16 - McSweeney - 2:01pm 3/15/10
      - You also admit ND would have to join a conference per your proposal - ND_in_ATL - 2:25pm 3/15/10
        
        Why would they have to join a conference? - McSweeney - 3:19pm 3/15/10
        
        1st...when accounting for mid-majors... - ND_in_ATL - 3:37pm 3/15/10
        
        There's not three at-large bids, there's seven. - McSweeney - 5:14pm 3/15/10
        
        I'm confused... - ND_in_ATL - 5:33pm 3/15/10
        
        My math is fuzzier than yours - McSweeney - 5:59pm 3/15/10
        
        Agreed, plus you get the same length of season either way. - jakers - 2:28pm 3/15/10
  - In an ideal world I'd tell the conferences to kiss it and make it a 6-team playoff - McSweeney - 1:13pm 3/15/10
- Another playoff thought if we must have one - Vstorm07 - 12:39pm 3/15/10
- I'd go with 16 and a couple of tweaks. - jvw0ef - 12:19pm 3/15/10
  - Have to disagree strongly with point #2 - McSweeney - 12:31pm 3/15/10
    - Re: Have to disagree strongly with point #2 - jvw0ef - 1:33pm 3/15/10
      - BCS Conference Champs maybe, but not all conference champs - McSweeney - 1:55pm 3/15/10
- You're asking your hypothetical champion to play an NFL length season - twostep - 11:22am 3/15/10
  - The longer season is a straw man argument concocted solely by the BCS commissioners - McSweeney - 12:24pm 3/15/10
    - These are supposed to be student-athletes, not pro players. School pres. won't accept this playoff [NT] - NDinTN - 3:27pm 3/15/10
      - The school presidents don't give a shit about anything other than $$ - ND_in_ATL - 4:26pm 3/15/10
        
        I don't agree. Most school pres. are dedicated teachers and administrators and can't be bought off.. - NDinTN - 9:05pm 3/15/10
        
        How about the bball tourney? - ND_in_ATL - 9:53pm 3/15/10
    - will the NFL complain about college football playoffs on the same weekends as the NFL playoffs? [NT] - sham - 2:04pm 3/15/10
      - How do you figure? - McSweeney - 2:13pm 3/15/10
        
        i like your idea, i was just under the assumption that nfl playoffs would overlap with ncaa [NT] - sham - 3:03pm 3/15/10
Mike Leach is kind of awesome. - jabbadoody5 - 9:55am 3/15/10 (2) [View All]
- Somebody needs to hire that guy. [NT] - Laramie - 3:47pm 3/15/10
- that was last FUCK-ING week! ahaha Fuck us. [NT] - ImWearingJeanShorts - 1:31pm 3/15/10
UHND Tourney Pick 'Em [LINK] - jabbadoody5 - 7:15am 3/15/10 (0) [View All]
John Saunders hates ND - NJ Irish - 8:00pm 3/14/10 (20) [View All]
- Lots of people hate ND & some of it is caused by our "holier than thou" attitude. A few............. - NDinTN - 3:36pm 3/15/10
  - Re: Lots of people hate ND & some of it is caused by our "holier than thou" attitude. A few............. - nd112093 - 3:53pm 3/15/10
- Everybody hates us......woe is me [NT] - WoodstockIrish - 10:48am 3/15/10
- All morons on all boards for all teams think ESPN hates their team - Chris94 - 11:50pm 3/14/10
  - Re: All morons on all boards for all teams think ESPN hates their team [NT] [LINK] - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 8:39am 3/15/10
    - Awesome. [NT] - Chris94 - 12:11pm 3/15/10
- The sun rises in the east [NT] - Colorado Irish - 11:47pm 3/14/10
  - You're wrong. They DO hate Notre Dame. - NDgrad76 - 12:42am 3/15/10
- Its theatre. - LanceHarbor - 8:20pm 3/14/10
  - Exactly. And ESPN plays both sides. - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 8:32am 3/15/10
    - Cowherd is the master of playing both sides. - dirtdickens - 12:11pm 3/15/10
    - I really don't think May hates N.D. - jakers - 9:42am 3/15/10
      - Re: I really don't think May hates N.D. - Rooster - 11:50am 3/15/10
      - He's the heel at a wrestling match - Hank Scorpio - 11:27am 3/15/10
      - Agree. - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 9:48am 3/15/10
  - its ESPN during the selection process, duh? - NJ Irish - 9:12pm 3/14/10
    - It's about ratings and bucks. LanceHarbor's comment was perfect...theatre. [NT] - Pipeline - 4:23am 3/15/10
      - Re: It's about ratings and bucks. LanceHarbor's comment was (almost) perfect... - Pipeline - 4:28am 3/15/10
        
        Re: It's about ratings and bucks. LanceHarbor's comment was (almost) perfect... [NT] - Pipeline - 4:31am 3/15/10
        
        BTW, I have heard over the years, at least two times, and one time in person... - Pipeline - 4:37am 3/15/10
Quinn traded to Broncos [NT] [LINK] - Jack Daniels - 5:48pm 3/14/10 (13) [View All]
- Re: Quinn traded to Broncos - flajoe - 10:19am 3/15/10
- and for a fullback ....... [NT] - whatsamataU - 9:05am 3/15/10
- he will be good with that coaching staff, look wat they did with orton [NT] - FUSC22 - 11:20pm 3/14/10
  - McHoodie is a great coach - dirtdickens - 12:00pm 3/15/10
- Good. - ndunabomber - 11:19pm 3/14/10
  - Yeah, all those 'weapons' in Denver - Colorado Irish - 11:47pm 3/14/10
- Good I no longer have to cheer for the Browns [NT] [NT] - ND83 - 7:38pm 3/14/10
- It had to be the Broncos. - dirtdickens - 6:01pm 3/14/10
  - I am ecstatic right now. - jabbadoody5 - 6:27pm 3/14/10
    - A pox upon thee Bronco fan - dirtdickens - 6:33pm 3/14/10
      - I hope you're right. - jabbadoody5 - 6:41pm 3/14/10
        
        Holgren is a bum - dirtdickens - 7:26pm 3/14/10
        
        Yeah, he doesn't know anything about quarterbacks - franksboy - 9:47pm 3/14/10
ND at Yankee Stadium - irishone - 5:15pm 3/14/10 (0) [View All]
ND to the SEC? - bonzai - 9:42am 3/14/10 (18) [View All]
- Not going to happen; however, I would like to see ND play several SEC teams like Vandy, TN & GA [NT] - NDinTN - 3:32pm 3/15/10
- Check your mail. [NT] - NDgrad76 - 9:22pm 3/14/10
- Forget the football talent, we would have to upgrade..... - ripperduck - 4:54pm 3/14/10
- ND would be the equivalent of South Carolina or Vandy in the SEC - foreverirish - 4:46pm 3/14/10
  - South Carolina???? - Toro - 7:56am 3/16/10
- they would beat us like a rented mule! but then again we would out graduate them!! [NT] - whatsamataU - 3:54pm 3/14/10
  - We would be 8-4 on a GREAT year [NT] - Goirish69 - 12:31am 3/15/10
  - retarded statement - irishkraut - 4:49pm 3/14/10
  - an instance classic...ND vs Vanderbilt for the best football graduation rate. [NT] - franksboy - 4:29pm 3/14/10
- That's just insane. - NDgrad76 - 2:27pm 3/14/10
- Bet ND is forced to change their mascot before a SEC move happens - BTAYLOR21 - 11:44am 3/14/10
  - Re: Bet ND is forced to change their mascot before a SEC move happens - kansirkid - 1:02pm 3/14/10
    - Were you one of those "athletics?" [NT] - WoodstockIrish - 1:15pm 3/14/10
  - Wouldn't mind playing LSU every year. - McSweeney - 12:14pm 3/14/10
- ND to the MAC? [NT] - blowfish - 11:06am 3/14/10
- No way. Horrible institutional fit. [NT] - McSweeney - 10:50am 3/14/10
  - Agree... - Toro - 10:52am 3/14/10
- Boy I just don't see that - IrishMikeR - 10:09am 3/14/10
help me out a little ( rankings ) - TmonT - 8:24am 3/14/10 (4) [View All]
- Very little analysis with pro or college... - Easton Pa ND Fan - 11:30am 3/15/10
  - hey, - TmonT - 6:30pm 3/15/10
- this is not a money game ala the pros - irishkraut - 5:21pm 3/14/10
  - thanx for that. . . - TmonT - 6:29pm 3/14/10
Quinn is finished in Cleveland- [LINK] - franksboy - 9:25pm 3/13/10 (27) [View All]
- Brady Quinn = Rick Mirer - bohart - 5:00pm 3/14/10
  - bullshit...he needs a solid year as a starter then call him mirer [NT] - FUSC22 - 11:26pm 3/14/10
  - Come on... - ndunabomber - 11:21pm 3/14/10
- Us Pittsburghers support the ongoing ineptitude of the Browns organization ... [NT] - irishrock - 3:41pm 3/14/10
- B...U...S...T* [NT] - jabi - 1:44pm 3/14/10
  - Maybe--but not a reasonable chance to succeed yet. - Scheetz21 - 5:10pm 3/14/10
  - You did predict it despite the backlash of all the Weis Rules, Mighty Quinn Kool-aid Drinkers... [NT] - The Woj - 4:27pm 3/14/10
  - A...S...S* [NT] - jvw0ef - 3:23pm 3/14/10
- You informed the board that Delhomme was a better option than Quinn - dirtdickens - 1:34pm 3/14/10
  - and Mike Holmgren agrees - franksboy - 4:27pm 3/14/10
    - Another awesome GM move - dirtdickens - 6:31pm 3/14/10
    - You are completely missing the point - dirtdickens - 6:04pm 3/14/10
  - Please tell me that Quinn won the fist fights. [NT] - Richard Cranium - 1:42pm 3/14/10
    - 2-1in fist fights. - dirtdickens - 1:59pm 3/14/10
      - Could Dooky kick Brady Quinn's ass? [NT] - Richard Cranium - 11:18pm 3/14/10
- Better hurry up and name your kid after him before it's too late.... [NT] - The Woj - 10:40pm 3/13/10
  - pretty funny .. - IrishMikeR - 10:21am 3/14/10
    - I'll take Jabi's opinion over every so called NFL Expert. I wonder if Quinn can speak Canadian, eh? - The Woj - 4:25pm 3/14/10
    - Is Quinn a legitimate NFL prospect? - franksboy - 10:38am 3/14/10
      - Since when is Holmgren a guru as a QB talent evaluator? - ND_in_ATL - 9:39am 3/15/10
      - Maybe getting away from the Browns will answer that question - OHIrish - 1:23pm 3/14/10
      - Ultimately who will have better numbers? - WoodstockIrish - 1:17pm 3/14/10
      - You assume way too much - D2 - 1:16pm 3/14/10
      - this statement has the same power behind its meaning than the opposite - BTAYLOR21 - 11:42am 3/14/10
        
        It's all about persaverence & he didn't peak in college. He'll decide his own fate regardless. - Jerseymick - 12:24pm 3/14/10
        
        don't you think Holmgren calculated your reasoning? [NT] - franksboy - 12:22pm 3/14/10
        
        don't you think Holmgren calculated your reasoning? [NT] - franksboy - 12:22pm 3/14/10
Jack will be fired before we join a conference in football. As it happens, I worked for a member of - EWALD - 4:41pm 3/13/10 (5) [View All]
- And I bet they shared their views of this with you. - D2 - 1:21pm 3/14/10
  - Just watch. No conference. Remain independent. [NT] - EWALD - 1:26pm 3/14/10
    - which proves what? - D2 - 1:46pm 3/14/10
- And the multifaceted resume of EWALD continues to grow.. [NT] - Chrisb - 10:51pm 3/13/10
  - Both the current head of the ND board and his brother were/are CEOs. I worked closely with the - EWALD - 8:44am 3/14/10
Big Ten(12): East and West? - Lawnmower8 - 1:40pm 3/13/10 (15) [View All]
- Swap Ohio State with Northwestern - foreverirish - 4:56pm 3/14/10
- Re: Big Ten(12): East and West? - kansirkid - 3:53pm 3/13/10
- Why do you all think ND is looking to join the Big Ten? ND's athletic ... - jimbasil - 2:15pm 3/13/10
  - Moving to the Big East in football solves none of our problems - McSweeney - 4:10pm 3/13/10
    - Yes, and they really are looking to be the super-conferences. Where will Texas - jimbasil - 4:43pm 3/13/10
- If ND in Big Ten came to pass, no way that's the alignment - McSweeney - 2:12pm 3/13/10
  - What about moving Iowa and PSU to the North and dropping UM and OSU to the South, like this.. - Chrisb - 11:44pm 3/13/10
  - I agree. That alignment makes more sense. [NT] - Lawnmower8 - 2:26pm 3/13/10
    - I think that's what the alignment will be, but with Mizzou in place of ND [NT] - McSweeney - 2:38pm 3/13/10
      - Totally agree - Hank Scorpio - 6:09pm 3/13/10
        
        Texas makes more sense than you probably realize. - McSweeney - 11:02am 3/14/10
        
        But I believe that geography is a larger factor than publically acknowledged - Hank Scorpio - 11:24am 3/14/10
        
        The problem with the ACC is that they didn't follow through. - McSweeney - 11:43am 3/14/10
- You do realize those would be the most lopsided divisions in the NCAA? - Hank Scorpio - 1:59pm 3/13/10
  - Re: You do realize those would be the most lopsided divisions in the NCAA? - Tongal - 10:14am 3/15/10
Kelly wants to return to being a "tough, physical football team." [LINK] - Laramie - 1:23pm 3/13/10 (4) [View All]
- He'll need to get tough with defensive line recruits then [NT] - OHIrish - 1:21pm 3/14/10
- It's about time we have a coach that talks about being tough. [NT] - IrishPride - 3:32pm 3/13/10
  - Weis talked about being "nasty" and tough when he came in. - NVIrish - 3:39pm 3/13/10
    - Turn up your sarcasm meter [NT] - Hank Scorpio - 6:10pm 3/13/10
Just confirmed tickets for Notre Dame home game this year!!! Question in body... - AL-Irish - 9:31pm 3/12/10 (8) [View All]
- Michigan, Stanford, or Pitt... - nddad98 - 1:10pm 3/13/10
- Re: Just confirmed tickets for Notre Dame home game this year!!! Question in body... - pvm71 - 11:57am 3/13/10
- Since everyone else has said Michigan, here are a few others to consider... - Iggle - 11:25am 3/13/10
  - Utah could be fun. One of those last-team-with-the-ball-wins kind of games. [NT] - McSweeney - 11:28am 3/13/10
- I would go to the Michigan game for one quarter before all four quarters of any other opponent [NT] - McSweeney - 11:06am 3/13/10
- Michigan, and it's not even close. - AlbanyIRISH - 11:48pm 3/12/10
  - Soooooo - ZibbyFire - 12:05am 3/13/10
- Michigan [NT] - irishone - 10:15pm 3/12/10
"According to Peake, Notre Dame offered him three or four weeks ago, and he hasn't heard from the st [LINK] - whatsamataU - 7:05pm 3/12/10 (1) [View All]
- deleted - nddad98 - 1:19pm 3/13/10
Assuming ND does join either the Big East, we would play 7 BE teams and have 5 non-conference...... - NDinTN - 2:57pm 3/12/10 (7) [View All]
- The conference bowl tie-ins are what's really killing us. - McSweeney - 3:30pm 3/12/10
  - this is one of the major failures - a59075 - 9:26am 3/13/10
- A B10 schedule would be better? - AlbanyIRISH - 3:03pm 3/12/10
  - If the Big 10/11 expands to 14 teams and takes Pitt, Cincy and Louisville, the BE is dead. I like... - NDinTN - 3:19pm 3/12/10
    - I thought they were only expanding to 12 teams? - ND_in_ATL - 3:55pm 3/12/10
      - If the BTN big money is on the table, some of these cash-strapped schools will take it, regardless [NT] - NDinTN - 8:57pm 3/12/10
        
        But adding a cash-strapped school to the B10 serves no purpose [LINK] - McSweeney - 11:24am 3/13/10
Wood and Teo - GoIrish24 - 12:40pm 3/12/10 (4) [View All]
- No [NT] - Slacker - 1:20pm 3/12/10
  - Apparently both have some trouble on the ice, they will be fine though. [NT] - GoIrish24 - 3:23pm 3/12/10
    - Understandable. They've probably never seen it before. [NT] - IrishPride - 5:22pm 3/12/10
      - really? I thought they played hockey [NT] - franksboy - 6:49pm 3/12/10
More fuel for the Big Ten fire - McSweeney - 10:53am 3/12/10 (80) [View All]
- Bullshit. - clementsfan - 8:31pm 3/15/10
- Football is the only sport relevant to this conversation [LINK] - iairishcheeks - 1:20pm 3/12/10
  - Read more, post less. That article does not contradict me in the slightest. - McSweeney - 2:37pm 3/12/10
    - The statistic you use is meaningless in the context of this argument. - iairishcheeks - 3:45pm 3/12/10
      - Again, read more, post less. - McSweeney - 4:07pm 3/12/10
        
        This links to your articles yes? Christ Almighty. [NT] - Tenacious_P - 10:05pm 3/13/10
        
        The obvious and completely "reasonable" assumption is that where goes the football team, so goes the - WoodstockIrish - 5:29pm 3/12/10
        
        Don't equate athletic success with financial success... - Toro - 10:04am 3/13/10
        
        Understood... [NT] - WoodstockIrish - 12:06pm 3/13/10
        
        How about you post less. - iairishcheeks - 4:41pm 3/12/10
        
        Idiotic - McSweeney - 4:52pm 3/12/10
        
        Re: How about you post less. - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 4:52pm 3/12/10
        
        Mac never sees the irony in his posts. [NT] - TheIrishHammer - 4:51pm 3/12/10
        
        This is becoming apparent. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 5:02pm 3/12/10
        
        His point about the year the data is from is a good one - Chris94 - 4:23pm 3/12/10
        
        Bowl revenue in terms of the annual ND operating budget is likely less than 0.01% [NT] - WoodstockIrish - 5:50pm 3/12/10
        
        We are talking about revenue from athletics here - Chris94 - 11:42pm 3/12/10
        
        What do you think the annual operating budget at ND is? - WoodstockIrish - 7:24am 3/13/10
  - Yep, and in football we are already more profitable then any Big 10 team [NT] - ND_in_ATL - 2:31pm 3/12/10
- 2007-2008 ND Football: 3-9. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 1:11pm 3/12/10
- This is a completely misleading list - Chris94 - 1:00pm 3/12/10
  - Boy I am glad I read the posts first before posting.... - WRDomer - 3:16pm 3/12/10
  - It also doesn't reflect profitability at all... - Toro - 2:42pm 3/12/10
    - I will concede the profitability argument - McSweeney - 2:50pm 3/12/10
  - also misleading b/c it refers to all sports. - ND_in_ATL - 2:34pm 3/12/10
  - Not exactly. - McSweeney - 2:11pm 3/12/10
    - The correlation is not perfect, but it is more important than conference affiliation - Chris94 - 2:44pm 3/12/10
      - ZERO? - McSweeney - 2:53pm 3/12/10
        
        Possibly could happen since it appears some of the subway alumni fans on this board will lose - WoodstockIrish - 5:55pm 3/12/10
        
        If the ABC money is much bigger, you might be right - Chris94 - 3:01pm 3/12/10
        
        Posted a link earlier to the best explanation of the Big Ten's TV money I've seen. [NT] [LINK] - McSweeney - 3:12pm 3/12/10
        
        Interesting. The terms of the new NBC contract are apparently classified somehow. - Chris94 - 3:47pm 3/12/10
- Wouldn't joining the Big 10 right now be selling as low as possible? Terrible business decision - ChicagoIrish - 11:54am 3/12/10
  - Bingo - Colorado Irish - 12:04pm 3/12/10
- It won't be the Big Ten that ND gets roped into will it? - jimbasil - 11:10am 3/12/10
  - As I alluded to earlier, I'd leave the BE in a heartbeat - McSweeney - 11:18am 3/12/10
    - This is true vis-a-vis talent. - AlbanyIRISH - 1:36pm 3/12/10
    - You also live in Big-11 country - ND_in_ATL - 12:47pm 3/12/10
      - Thank you - Hank Scorpio - 2:33pm 3/12/10
        
        Your allegiance to ND is tied to what conference they play in and whether they are independent or - WoodstockIrish - 5:57pm 3/12/10
        
        "we would play a bunch of teams year in and year out that no ones cares about" - McSweeney - 3:08pm 3/12/10
        
        Um, what? - Hank Scorpio - 3:57pm 3/12/10
        
        What indeed. - McSweeney - 4:38pm 3/12/10
        
        The Big Ten does not incorporates the Northeast. - AlbanyIRISH - 4:45pm 3/12/10
        
        State College PA is not the Northeast the last time I checked [NT] - WoodstockIrish - 6:00pm 3/12/10
        
        If it is...its on the fringe and many on the coast would say it isn't. [NT] - Frank L - 6:33pm 3/12/10
        
        Who are PSU's oldest historic rivals after Pitt and WVU? - McSweeney - 10:57am 3/13/10
        
        If you want to talk rivals, only the Cuse, Pitt and WVU really qualify... - Frank L - 2:24pm 3/13/10
        
        PSU = "the big Eastern independent football school" - McSweeney - 11:13am 3/14/10
        
        It's not in the Northeast....period. [NT] - WoodstockIrish - 12:08pm 3/13/10
        
        Period! Well, that ends things I guess. - McSweeney - 2:20pm 3/13/10
        
        I would rather imagine that 70% or more of Penn States alumni base lives in Pennsylvania - WoodstockIrish - 11:15am 3/14/10
        
        11:20 AM and already people need their hands held. - McSweeney - 11:34am 3/14/10
        
        "I love ND, but sometimes our fans have hubris..." - WoodstockIrish - 1:25pm 3/14/10
      - If ND were to join a BCS conference in fball, the BE would be my last choice, not my first - McSweeney - 12:53pm 3/12/10
        
        The difference is we could join the BE on our terms - ND_in_ATL - 1:03pm 3/12/10
    - Re: As I alluded to earlier, I'd leave the BE in a heartbeat - ChicagoIrish - 11:55am 3/12/10
- Why should money drive this decision? - Iggle - 10:59am 3/12/10
  - Not saying it should. - McSweeney - 11:05am 3/12/10
    - Note you say revenue - WoodstockIrish - 6:01pm 3/12/10
    - Re: Not saying it should. - ChicagoIrish - 12:01pm 3/12/10
      - Good points...and it's maintained that profitability despite sustained mediocrity or worse... - Frank L - 3:58pm 3/12/10
    - This may be true, for all sports, but what is the difference in Football? - jimbasil - 11:17am 3/12/10
      - ND jumps four spots to 10th if we're talking just football. - McSweeney - 11:20am 3/12/10
        
        is it because they have 100,000 + seat stadiums? [NT] - raghib1988 - 11:29am 3/12/10
        
        Drop an upper deck on the stadium and you'd add $20mm per year. - Iggle - 11:26am 3/12/10
        
        I'm not sure ND could sell 20,000 more tickets right now - NDNEIL - 11:45am 3/12/10
        
        Edit: my info was incorrect on football-only revenues. - McSweeney - 11:25am 3/12/10
        
        In regards to the money, the interesting thing is, schools like USC and UCLA - jimbasil - 11:32am 3/12/10
  - What would the other reason be to joining a conference? - NDNEIL - 11:02am 3/12/10
    - Fears of being locked out of the BCS - Iggle - 11:22am 3/12/10
      - I don't think those conferences would subtract a game - jimbasil - 12:10pm 3/12/10
        
        I agree - Iggle - 12:20pm 3/12/10
        
        I agree, good point [NT] - jimbasil - 12:48pm 3/12/10
      - I don't see the BCS locking us out anytime soon - NDNEIL - 11:38am 3/12/10
        
        The problem isn't being locked out of the BCS Bowls, it's being locked out of the other bowls - McSweeney - 4:58pm 3/12/10
        
        Agreed - AlbanyIRISH - 11:49am 3/12/10
    - Exactly. And if you take our attitude with these numbers, what's your conclusion? - McSweeney - 11:14am 3/12/10
      - the Big FOur are 4-5 times larger schools than we are yet average only $17M in revenue per year more - WoodstockIrish - 6:03pm 3/12/10
      - Are you talking football or are you talking all sports? - jimbasil - 11:20am 3/12/10
Opponent History - The Irish have played 23 teams at least 10 times. - Lawnmower8 - 9:58am 3/12/10 (0) [View All]
Lemming on Notre Dame Recruiting [LINK] - franksboy - 9:42am 3/12/10 (0) [View All]
Blue-Gold tickets on sale [LINK] - whatsamataU - 8:41am 3/12/10 (0) [View All]
If you DON'T believe the world will end when ND joins a conference, post why here - RMIrish - 2:10am 3/12/10 (8) [View All]
- I'm beginning to hate you. - jimbasil - 12:14pm 3/12/10
- ND football in the B10 becomes a regional football program. - AlbanyIRISH - 11:45am 3/12/10
  - "ND becomes Michigan": you made your argument and refuted it in the same sentence. - McSweeney - 5:09pm 3/12/10
- I'm a fan of the University first and football second and if we do, life goes on eom [NT] - Jerseymick - 11:15am 3/12/10
- Good post. The times are a changin'. [NT] - ZibbyFire - 10:26am 3/12/10
- it ended several years back when ND assumed that everyone else would follow - whatsamataU - 8:36am 3/12/10
  - when did ND assume this? - ChicagoIrish - 12:02pm 3/12/10
- Because I couldn't give a rat's ass? [NT] - TheIrishHammer - 5:28am 3/12/10
I propose a new "Super Conference" ND, Texas, Bama, USC, Fl, Boise St., Oklahoma, Penn State .... - jimbasil - 9:43pm 3/11/10 (5) [View All]
- Is this one of those questions where you pick the one that doesn't belong? [NT] - seascapepro23 - 1:07am 3/12/10
  - You can hate on Boise St as much as you want but I still see them as a good team. [NT] - jimbasil - 10:40am 3/12/10
    - Hahaha.... I see Boise as a great team. [NT] - seascapepro23 - 1:36pm 3/12/10
    - I think he was talking about ND [NT] - NDNEIL - 10:54am 3/12/10
      - Yes, it is obvious. [NT] - jimbasil - 11:00am 3/12/10
Very interesting discussion on whether or not we remain independent (link). Lots of angles. [NT] [LINK] - EWALD - 11:29am 3/11/10 (59) [View All]
- Our schedule can't get much worse.* [NT] - blowfish - 9:33pm 3/11/10
- Its just a matter of time... - jabi - 4:55pm 3/11/10
- If ND joins the Big Ten, they'll lose this fan. - AlbanyIRISH - 2:29pm 3/11/10
  - You'd rather watch the teams on ND's current schedule? [NT] - jabi - 3:56pm 3/11/10
    - absolutely. - ND_in_ATL - 4:38pm 3/11/10
      - I said "current"... - jabi - 4:52pm 3/11/10
        
        You obviously didn't read the entirety of my post. - ND_in_ATL - 4:55pm 3/11/10
        
        I read enough to see you didnt mention teams on the "current" schedule... - jabi - 4:57pm 3/11/10
      - Agree - Dump 7-4-1 and the scheduling problem is solved - Iggle - 4:45pm 3/11/10
    - Is this your acceptance for a BE weighted schedule? [NT] - jimbasil - 4:09pm 3/11/10
    - Not really. - AlbanyIRISH - 4:04pm 3/11/10
      - How about us fans in the SE? - ND_in_ATL - 4:53pm 3/11/10
  - If the ND AD finds out you won't watch games, they definitely won't join the Big 10/11. That's scary [NT] - NDinTN - 3:41pm 3/11/10
  - I'm pretty sure that's why they're hesitant on making any quick decisions. [NT] - whatsamataU - 2:37pm 3/11/10
  - How many times are you going to threaten to stop rooting for the Irish? - Chris94 - 2:37pm 3/11/10
    - Get a grip. - AlbanyIRISH - 3:47pm 3/11/10
      - That is totally asinine. - Chris94 - 4:25pm 3/11/10
        
        I said "in part." - AlbanyIRISH - 5:14pm 3/11/10
        
        My fandom is not contingent on any single item - Chris94 - 9:21pm 3/11/10
- Can someone explain to me how PAC-10 expansion would "force our hand"? - Chris94 - 1:27pm 3/11/10
  - If the Big 10/11 and the Pac 10 expand to 12 teams, that doesn't mean fewer games for ND. The SEC... - NDinTN - 3:35pm 3/11/10
    - But it could mean fewer games. ND played the PAC10 4 times last year. If they expand ... - SoPhilaIrish - 1:36am 3/12/10
    - ND is considering the move to a conference for one reason: money. [NT] - AlbanyIRISH - 4:05pm 3/11/10
      - Would ND make more money from the Big 10/11 than from our $9M NBC TV contract? Questionable [NT] - NDinTN - 4:15pm 3/11/10
        
        Right now B10 teams make more money from the BTN/ABC/ESPN contract than ND does from NBC. - AlbanyIRISH - 5:18pm 3/11/10
        
        Not questionable. We'd make A LOT more under the B10 umbrella [LINK] - McSweeney - 4:52pm 3/11/10
        
        Having been following the Mizzou/Big 10 saga here in KC it seems very apparent we'd make much more. - Irish2K2 - 9:36am 3/13/10
        
        What does ND make per year on TV? [NT] - jimbasil - 6:44pm 3/11/10
        
        $9M. To put that in context, each B10 school gets basically that money from just ABC/ESPN. - McSweeney - 7:46am 3/12/10
        
        I thought that was the contract for NBC. Does ND not get paid for their other appearances - jimbasil - 10:18am 3/12/10
        
        I'm sure they do, but we're talking marginal money. - McSweeney - 10:28am 3/12/10
  - I think it is more from a non BCS Championship angle - Catfish - 3:24pm 3/11/10
  - It would add at least another conference game to their schedule. - jakers - 1:55pm 3/11/10
    - But no divided conference plays every team - Chris94 - 2:07pm 3/11/10
      - Agreed. It also makes me nervous to have a lawyer as AD with no experience to guide us [NT] - NDinTN - 4:20pm 3/11/10
      - UF plays eight and four this year [NT] [LINK] - jimbasil - 2:14pm 3/11/10
        
        That is more like 8 and 3.5 - ndthrunthru - 2:48pm 3/11/10
        
        It warmed my heart. [NT] - jimbasil - 3:06pm 3/11/10
      - Exactly. - jakers - 2:13pm 3/11/10
        
        Possible - jimbasil - 2:17pm 3/11/10
        
        IMO - the only time ND is holding the better hand is when football is on top. - ndthrunthru - 2:46pm 3/11/10
        
        Yeah, Winning should do the trick.... - jimbasil - 3:15pm 3/11/10
- I hope ND stays independent to keep the revenue stream from lining the pockets of big conferences. - dmontei - 12:45pm 3/11/10
  - It looks more like the BIG LEAST is doing quite a bit of stirring. [NT] [LINK] - jimbasil - 12:53pm 3/11/10
    - I'm sure each conference is scrambling to figure out how it can get its hands on the most money. - dmontei - 1:07pm 3/11/10
- I assume you have some sort of anaylitic skills, no? - jimbasil - 12:05pm 3/11/10
  - Your "Big Least" comments are grossly overstated - McSweeney - 2:54pm 3/11/10
    - Now that you and Swayback have put ND football into the Big LEast, what kind of payout - jimbasil - 3:22pm 3/11/10
      - Where did I say or even imply I want to be in the Big East? - McSweeney - 9:35am 3/12/10
- Interesting is you still posting links from there even though they banned you [NT] - Slacker - 11:44am 3/11/10
- First of all, that "article" isn't very interesting at all. - LanceHarbor - 11:41am 3/11/10
  - Well, I didn't expect this from one of your posts. - jimbasil - 12:02pm 3/11/10
    - Huh? - LanceHarbor - 12:31pm 3/11/10
      - My bad. - jimbasil - 12:36pm 3/11/10
        
        Far from it. [NT] - LanceHarbor - 12:36pm 3/11/10
  - Great points. - twostep - 11:51am 3/11/10
    - I wouldn't be so sure - BTAYLOR21 - 1:24pm 3/11/10
      - "The ratings only get better as we have gotten worse." This is false. [NT] - Rooney - 2:20pm 3/11/10
        
        Is it though - BTAYLOR21 - 10:28pm 3/11/10
"Who is this year's "must have" prospect? & other recruiting info from SBN [LINK] - whatsamataU - 11:17am 3/11/10 (6) [View All]
- Actually, BK was the "must have" recruit [NT] - EWALD - 11:30am 3/11/10
  - He meant this coming year, dipshit. [NT] - LanceHarbor - 11:42am 3/11/10
    - Gee, really? Are you too dense to get humor? Never mind. The answer is obvious. [NT] - EWALD - 12:57pm 3/11/10
      - don't pull a "Hank" on us.... [NT] - whatsamataU - 1:37pm 3/11/10
      - Please explain how your post was supposed to be humorous. [NT] - LanceHarbor - 1:35pm 3/11/10
  - Yeah but he was an early enrollee so he counts toward last year's class. [NT] - dmontei - 11:40am 3/11/10
ND-Seton Hall chat on! [NT] [LINK] - AlbanyIRISH - 7:02pm 3/10/10 (2) [View All]
- seton hall has a football team? [NT] - whatsamataU - 7:55pm 3/10/10
  - If they did, they would have beaten ND last November. [NT] - AlbanyIRISH - 9:18pm 3/10/10
SEC and Notre Dame Scheduling - JTLA - 5:32pm 3/10/10 (2) [View All]
- you forgot Alabama! Why have a a game against us when you have to play LSU, AL, UGA, FL and a couple - whatsamataU - 6:48pm 3/10/10
- I doubt the SEC is warm to ND's run and hide scheduling. The absence of the SEC on ND's schedule - WestCoastIrishFan - 6:00pm 3/10/10
Clausen scores 1 point better than Tebow on Wonderlic [LINK] - ndAZ - 4:37pm 3/10/10 (17) [View All]
- Kyle Boller reportedly scored off the charts on this test... - Toro - 11:36am 3/11/10
- Well, for one thing, consider their college educations [NT] - EWALD - 11:31am 3/11/10
  - What does that have anything to do with it? - LanceHarbor - 12:41pm 3/11/10
- Isn't Tebow an evangelical Christian? - McSweeney - 10:42am 3/11/10
  - Hey, he is smart enough to perform circumscissions in 3rd world countries - ND_in_ATL - 11:20am 3/11/10
    - But can he perform a circumscision while reading a weak-side blitz? [NT] - dmontei - 1:19pm 3/11/10
    - Circumscisions or exorcisms??? [NT] - Toro - 11:39am 3/11/10
- Wasn't there a report that Vince Young got a 7 on this thing? - Charlie Jrs Headset - 9:08pm 3/10/10
- Its better than Favre or Marino...this test means nothing [NT] - NDRacehorse - 8:44pm 3/10/10
- Tebow has mad ups. - jmk - 5:19pm 3/10/10
  - It'll get higher every year...until he finally rises into heaven. [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 8:25am 3/11/10
- The Wonderlic is absolutely worthless. - dmontei - 4:55pm 3/10/10
  - Here's the Test: [LINK] - irishone - 7:31am 3/12/10
  - I think it is becoming more important for QB's - NDNEIL - 4:59pm 3/10/10
    - Not really - D2 - 10:24pm 3/10/10
- Both of them should have been cheating off Bradford, apparently. [NT] - NDNEIL - 4:44pm 3/10/10
  - Chris Leak did pretty well [NT] - ShowMeIrish - 4:59pm 3/10/10
Kelly likes his defense and thinks there are more questions on offense [LINK] - franksboy - 4:33pm 3/10/10 (3) [View All]
- First step in fixing a bad defense - twostep - 11:56am 3/11/10
  - exactly. - BTAYLOR21 - 1:27pm 3/11/10
- I can think of two other coaches making similar claims. - blowfish - 10:07am 3/11/10
What player chirped he could run a 4.5 40? [LINK] - AlbanyIRISH - 4:04pm 3/10/10 (16) [View All]
- Duval Kamara [NT] - BlessedMother - 11:36am 3/11/10
- Maybe he ran his 40 in the stadium's tall grass. - dmontei - 11:02am 3/11/10
- Guess: Robert Blanton- has a HUGE mouth and looks slow. [NT] - seascapepro23 - 10:18am 3/11/10
  - Re: Guess: Brian Smith - Tongal - 10:24pm 3/11/10
  - True, but he's faster than 4.85 - ND_in_ATL - 10:46am 3/11/10
- Guess: Harrison Smith - IrishfaninTX - 11:04pm 3/10/10
  - Harrison has legit 4.5 speed, so I doubt it was him [NT] - ND_in_ATL - 10:46am 3/11/10
- Guess: Chris Stewart [NT] - IrishPride - 9:11pm 3/10/10
  - When did they start timing the 40 in minutes????? - ripperduck - 11:04am 3/11/10
    - When we started timing the 40 with cellphone timers. - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 8:26am 3/12/10
- A player who talked a big game, but then failed to follow up - Rocket91 - 8:24pm 3/10/10
  - My guess as well [NT] - BillsND - 11:41am 3/11/10
  - That would be my guess. [NT] - ND_in_ATL - 10:47am 3/11/10
- Guess: Robert Hughes [NT] - seascapepro23 - 6:39pm 3/10/10
- Guess: Kyle Rudolph [NT] - JTLA - 5:22pm 3/10/10
  - I don't think Kyle needs to brag about anything - IrishfaninTX - 11:03pm 3/10/10
An interesting read from one of the posters on Scout. - jimbasil - 2:55pm 3/10/10 (1) [View All]
- It all sounds good. Let's hope is shows on the field. I am optimistic it will, at least if Crist - EWALD - 4:26pm 3/10/10
sources: browns may deal quinn [LINK] - und67 - 2:36pm 3/10/10 (23) [View All]
- Browns front office is now smarter - franksboy - 5:15pm 3/10/10
  - Really? Browns will talk to Jake Delhomme Thursday - dirtdickens - 6:28pm 3/10/10
    - Jake Delhomme is a lot better than Anderson or Quinn - franksboy - 7:11pm 3/10/10
      - uhhhh, what? - dirtdickens - 6:21am 3/11/10
        
        Replacing Quinn may not be a bad idea but - dmontei - 11:07am 3/11/10
        
        Jabi, Don't say anything bad about Brady - franksboy - 10:17am 3/11/10
        
        reality not loyalty - Gower - 3:02pm 3/11/10
        
        Troy Smith might be a great QB. He deserves a chance. [NT] - JacksSmirkingRevenge - 10:10am 3/13/10
        
        I can see your syndrome messes with your posting - dirtdickens - 12:06pm 3/11/10
        
        If all he needs is a chance, then why are the Browns peddling him? - franksboy - 4:13pm 3/11/10
        
        Re: If all he needs is a chance, then why are the Browns peddling him? - Gower - 6:08pm 3/11/10
        
        hey i hope i'm wrong - franksboy - 11:17pm 3/11/10
  - Based on ? - Gower - 6:18pm 3/10/10
    - Brady could have a nice career as a backup - franksboy - 7:16pm 3/10/10
      - Re: Brady could have a nice career as a backup - Gower - 7:50am 3/11/10
- Sure. Maybe they'll trade for Peyton Manning. After all, he couldn't win the Super Bowl. [NT] - EWALD - 4:28pm 3/10/10
- He'll make a good 3rd team Qb for some NFL team.. - jabi - 2:45pm 3/10/10
  - Again.. based on ? - Gower - 6:19pm 3/10/10
    - Sure he's "up to snuff" based on his weak performances?... - jabi - 1:13am 3/11/10
      - Re: Sure he's "up to snuff" based on his weak performances?... - Gower - 5:36am 3/11/10
  - Something the Raiders wished they had. [NT] - jimbasil - 2:52pm 3/10/10
    - They need a good 1st team QB, not 3rd team* [NT] - jabi - 5:04pm 3/10/10
      - OY* [NT] - jimbasil - 5:08pm 3/10/10

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