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IBG – Just Win Baby Edition

The last time Notre Dame beat Navy, senior running back Jonas Gray was just a freshman. If the Irish are to snap the Midshipmen's streak, the senior back will need to see plenty of action. (Photo / IconSMI)

This week’s edition of the Irish Blog Gathering is hosted by One Foot Down and asks us to ponder if we should be satisfied with any win over Navy.  After back to back losses, we say just win baby.

1.) Coach Kelly refused to fall on the proverbial sword after USC. He felt that some of the players that needed to play with poise just didn’t. Do you agree or disagree? Did coaching play a role in our egg-laying against USC?

I didn’t really have too strong of feelings for this either way – it didn’t really bother me but I didn’t necessarily like it either.  Kelly knows his players best and if he thinks he can motivate them this way, hey, more power too him.  He also didn’t totally call them out and blame the loss solely on them.  Kelly has been pretty good with taking blame when it’s been warranted so I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt here.

As for coaching’s role in the loss to USC.  You bet.  The defensive game plan was way too conservative and on offense I thought Kelly abandoned the run way too quickly.  Even late in the game when Rees tossed the interception on 3rd and 1 with the Irish down 14 still, I thought Kelly should have called a run, got the first down, and then worried about the points.   Jonas Gray was running really well and needed to get his number called a lot more when the game was still close.

2.) In their post-game interviews, Coach Kelly, Jonas Gray, Harrison Smith, and Tyler Eifert all called the atmosphere for USC “electric.” Coincidence?

I don’t think so.  The word “electric” is always used by coaches and players to describe game time atmospheres and I heard many fans use the same word throughout the day.  I will say the atmosphere walking into the stadium was unique to anything I’ve experienced at Notre Dame Stadium, but once USC jumped out to the 17-0 lead it really took the air out of the place and every time it was about to erupt again Notre Dame did something to take the crowd out of it.

Overall, I loved the night game experience and hope Notre Dame plans one a year from here out.  There is so much to do on a Notre Dame weekend that it allows for people to take everything in but still have time to tailgate without having to get up at the crack of dawn.

Speaking of the atmosphere, I loved the pumped in music in concept, but Notre Dame needs to mix it up a bit more because if I hear Crazy Train one more time I might go insane.

3.) Is your faith in this coaching staff shaken after Saturday night’s debacle?

Not really.  At the end of the day, for how bad the outcome seemed, Notre Dame was really only one bad snap away the game going down to the wire and I can’t blame the coaches for a senior botching a snap at the goal line.   Notre Dame lost to a top 25 team that is loaded with talent and even with all of the mistakes that were made, they were about to tie the game at the end of the 3rd quarter.

Considering Notre Dame fell behind 17-0, it’s actually a good sign that the staff was able to keep them focused and able to rally back.  In years past that wasn’t always the case.

Now, a loss to Navy this weekend would more than shake my confidence in the staff.

4.) Should we be satisfied with a mere win over Navy, or does it have to be somewhat convincing?

Satisfied?  Yes.  Happy about it? Not really.  This is a bad Navy team playing without their starting quarterback. Even with both starting defensive ends out, there is no reason for Notre Dame to lose this game – especially with all of the motivation they have from last year’s embarrassing performance.

Given Navy’s recent success over the Irish, any win should be enough to keep the wolves at bay for another week, but in all honesty, there is no reason for this game to be close.   Navy’s defense is not strong and should not be able to keep up with Notre Dame’s offense unless the Irish turn into a turnover machine again this week.

Defensively, if the Irish play disciplined, solid football they will be fine.  Two freshmen at defensive end definitely worries me with Navy’s blocking schemes and tricky offense, but that’s why there are 9 other players on defense to step up.

At the end of the day though, it’s just like Al Davis always said, “just win baby”.  Notre Dame HAS to win this weekend.  I’m not sure recruiting could survive another loss to Navy this year and I don’t even want to think about what the forums will look like should Navy win a 4th game in 5 years.  Wow.  There’s a line I never imagined I would ever write when I started working with Kyle on UHND 12 years ago.

5.) Will the Irish shut down the vaunted Navy triple option, or are we in for a shootout?

Navy will rip off some yards and they will score some points, but if the Irish offense does it’s job, the Navy offense will be forced to pass more than they would like since they don’t like to pass at all.  With a backup quarterback in, the freshmen on the defensive line can’t really be an excuse for the Irish defense to get gashed the way it did last year.

Air Force moved the ball easily at times on Notre Dame before the Irish forced a few turnovers and put up a pile of points of their own so some adjustments will need to be made by Bob Diaco and staff.  Diaco adjusted very well to the option last year against Army after seeing his defense get worked by Navy so hopefully we see another improvement like that this weekend.

6) Take us out with a quotation, clip, or photo to summarize your post-USC/pre-Navy state of fandom.

I’ll go with a great Ricky Bobby quote – “I just wanna go fast” because really, I just wanna have fun watching Notre Dame football games again.  The games this year have been beyond frustrating because the talent is there but Notre Dame just keeps shooting itself in the foot time and time again.  If they can just eliminate the mistakes they can turn this season around and still manage to get into a solid bowl game where they can end their season on a high note again this year.

104 comments

  1. I think this is a good article about how ND and Wake match up. To me, the most glaring stat is the avg size of their linemen. We outweigh them by about 40lbs.! Even Navy’s lines were bigger! WF should be having to replace all of the divots from Wood and Gray!

    http://www.irishsportsdaily.com/football/football-articles/5860-nd-vs-wake-inside-the-numbers-part-i

    • JDH-We almost forgot, 40 lbs. per man?! The 100% consensus from we the SandRats,is to go with the Navy game plan and just overpower and hammer them. We eally like that Gray=MONSTER! Thanks for that site-we are going there now. Probably a bad idea at this hour but I’ll take it!
      That guy Cousinnap makes a good point about progress; I agreed with that statement.I think everybody feels bad for Crist but I’m not one to second guess the coach. He knows something.
      Thanks again for the lift. Thank that cousinnap too.

      • According to my calculations SW. Our offensive linemen all go over the 300lb. mark. That should create some big holes for our fast movers. I think Wake will have a tough time dealing with ND’s size and athleticism. However, never underestimate ND’s ability to give up turnovers and take themselves out of the game. I believe it will come down to that, as usual.

  2. Let’s not manufacture a quaterback question – I will agre that in the Navy blowout that the entire second half shoul have bee Crist and Hendrix maybe a quarter each if things went well – Hendrix should get more time. I don’t go along with Crist – he just never really looks comfortable in that system – he may transfer next year – look for Hendrix to move ahead of Rees. This is a work in progress and BK is figuring it out – I will agree that the defense still needs a lot of work – especially in the second and third levels – but recruits look like that is being addressed – Let’s not forget here where we started from and and how far there is to go.

    Compare where the team is to two years ago and I think you can see real progress

  3. JDH-We left you a message up above. Hope you find it and give us your answer. Thanks.

    • JDH-We interpret that to mean ‘The best chance for victory is with Tommy Rees, not D Crist.’He’s the guy we trust in the ‘Green Zone’. Everyone agreed with you after some genius speculations from a few people who might just come from SEC country!

      Hendrix gets the future nod? We hear that Everett Golson is something else to watch-really gifted guy? This should really be interesting to play out. The SEC Ruckers love this guy.

      Your feedback has the unit buzzing-amazing how many people just became ND fans this season!? So I guess the rack time chatter won’t end until 0100 hrs or so. It’s already getting going right now. Thought I’d get some good shuteye tonight, but not, but it keeps everyone’s spirits and attitudes up.

      Thanks again for the intel and opinions-you opened up Pandora’s Box here! A couple of the guys are going on about that stupid Jumbotron again! Jesus! No sleep for sure! Will try to get a read in later when we get back in the wire after our stroll tomorrow. Go Irish. Hooah!

      P.S. How is WF able to dael with a tiny stadium? Is that correct-31,000 seats?

      • SW-
        What Division/unit are you serving under? (if
        PERSEC AND OPSEC will not be compromised)?

        Regarding the WF stadium, I guess that it correct. Looks like a 31,300 capacity. I’m sure it’s fit their needs just fine for many years. If their program keeps on getting better, I guess they’ll be adding seats. But that’s a big “if”.

      • JDH-Roger that;security not compromised. 82nd ABN Div. SA duty. Sometimes the MRE’s compromise us, if you know what I mean?!…Thank God for the Medics. You sound like you have been here too? Or donned the diggies at one time or another?

        Last night I heard all about that jumbotron idea. Couldn’t take any more let me, tell you. I guess it wouldn’t be a a bad idea if it doesn’t interfere with TD Jesus. That was the biggest/most frequent observation. Then on to who the qb should/will be. Then inexpicably ‘someone’ brought up the Alabama vs. LSU game and it was off to the races. The stroll today was verrrrry long for sure. I think we will get both games-ND for sure and hopefully someone at the FOB will have a DVR ready.The newest MOS will be ‘Football Digicord.’ The biggest threat will be someone leaking the score out before we watch that second game come Sunday morning during mess call. Between this post and those games attitudes are really actually lifting here. It’s a healthy distraction from the tedium. Can’t do many things since we might offend someone…everyday someone tries to offend us. I wander, but we look forward to the game(s).
        The latest ND new fan is from the deep south. His comment really got us rolling since he is not of the Irish Catholic persuasion “Anybody that plays for the ‘Man’ (can’t use J word)deserves my support and I don’t know where Notre dame is but it’s got to be a good place and all.” ‘A fan is born!’ That’s why all this football clamor is in fact important in many unseen ways. (morale) Fortunately no one is wondering why Ireland is attacking Wake Island! Things are improving.
        Hope all finds you folks well and safe. It’s near rack time; again. Go Irish! Hooah!

        END Message. OUT.

  4. Not a big deal but we lost that South Bend commit David Perkins (4 star)

    • FXM-To whom did we lose Perkins, and if you know, why? We heard he was leaning towards the Irish early. Thank you.

      • I don’t think we lost him. He’s looking around. He wants to feel OK taking tickets and stadium visits. That’s what they do now. The whole recruiting process is about getting wined and dined for the parents, dined and your behind kissed for the athlete, oh an tickets to football games.

      • C-Dog, Thanks for the update. We have some dining young Perkins might enjoy! I do hope he stays with the Irish though. Oh well, off to chow. Thanks, we love the reads.

      • I heard it is academic issues that prompted this. Is there any truth to that?

  5. Irisheye62,

    I like your point on Crist, personally and not yearning to insight a riot!
    I also liked Dayne’s niffty footwork running the ball against Navy. Not to mention spot on passes walking the team down the field and scoring.

    Now that we know there is certainly bias at QB! I saw no reason not to have put Crist in the second half against USC since we are being OVERLY GENEROUS with turn over allowances. And if that would have not worked out then on to Hendrix!

    Aleast make an effort to win the game by making changes for obvious reasons rather than waiving to the ship as it sinks!! He certainly wasn’t bashful pulling Crist after the 1st half playing USF. I wonder if he would have applied the same standard to our starting QB on turnovers, how much time would he have spent on the pine this year?? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?

  6. Sad Warrior:
    Don’t you feel sorry for Mark May’s wife? He always thinks he is right–on everything. Raising the eyebrows with those plastic rims. He is not a happy man but filled with arrogance. Just watch and listen to him–Freud would have a hey day about him. As for him not respecting Navy and the tradition of the Navy /Notre Dame Game, Mark May is not concerned with those who protect this country; Mark May IS his OWN country. as for Flutie–he cannot appreciate mystique because the fact is BC Jesuits don’t know what mystique is.

    As for Kelly—the run game should be brought back FAR MORE. I do question his calls as of late quite a bit. Running is working for Notre Dame and I DO think we can beat Stanford–if we have the discipline not to have late hits and stupid mistakes shoot us in the foot.
    The defense of ND against USC had more holes that Swiss Cheese. I don’t care about rankings-I just want –like all REAL Irish fans–solid common sense play calling and the discipline to follow through on them.
    I’m still amazed at Crist taking the ball down to the goal and then being taken out for a play then put back in only to have his rhythm ruined and another fumble.

    Anybody check out next years schedule?
    Navy , the numerically incorrect Big 10 opponents and the Ghetto Cocaines of Coral Gables and Oklahoma. This program has a chance to step up and prove itself and the time to prepare is NOW–on and off the field.
    Congrats Irish on being #1 in Graduation. Most guys can’t have subject /verb agreement much less graduate. ( I like SEC football but I’m sick of hearing sentences with double negatives and ending with “you know” )
    Enough said. Go Irish—

    • Hahahahahahahahahahahaha, that was a great post, IRISHEYE62.

    • irisheye62,

      Great stuff mocking Mark May!

      Now, if we could only get Lou Holtz to shut up about ND football and stop jinxing us we’d be OK.

      Look, I don’t like BC. What their football team did to the visitors’ locker room at S. Bend several years ago was reprehensible! Having said that, I don’t hold all Jesuits responsible nor would I gratuitously insult the history of the Society of Jesus. There are too many Jesuit saints and martyrs for that, irisheye62. As a good Catholic, instead you should be saying– “Sts. Ignatius of Loyola and Francis Xavier, pray for us!”

      I’m also no fan of the self-styled “U”. I thoroughly enjoyed ND’s smack-down of the Hurricanes at the Sun Bowl. I’d only wish ND had scored more often and not let up a few cheap scores late.

      Having said that, irish,Miami has cleaned up its act quite a bit. It’s more demanding than it was when Jimmy Johnson or Denis Erickson trolled their sidelines. Do some research and you’ll see that the academic standards at Miami have gone up since the early 2000s. Is it any coincidence that they’ve been largely as irrelevant as ND since that time? Coincidence? I don’t think so! Miami fans are now finding out how difficult it is to win the right way, the way ND has done it from day one!

      • Hey Rob, it is good to see you back. I have suffered the indignity of having to leave Pittsburgh for Dallas, I was glad to see them take down the evil empire this week, and I liked Ben’s impression of Tommy
        Rees – dink, dink, dink.

      • fxm,

        Loved the win over the Patsies, Bilicheat, and the Brady bunch!

        However, like the Irish, what is it with Red Zone efficiency (or inefficiency, if you will)? That game should’ve been over by halftime! The Stillers need to put up TDs and not FGs against the Ratbirds and in any eventual rematch against the NE cheaters.

        I’d only wish the TR was a fraction of the QB Big Ben is. We’d be 7-0! I’m sure that Big Ben can run the Spread O better than TR and he’s not even a running QB. But then again neither is TR!

    • Irisheyes62-I never thought about Mark ‘The Oneonta Oaf’s’ poor wife! I do pity her though. Being married to God’s messenger on earth must be a terrible burden…How does she bear up? I can’t type what I would really like to say; if i did it would be a trip to the confessional for sure! Your shots on the Oaf and Flutie sing magical! Thanks for the humor.

  7. Some observations on the weekend. We had great joy here, finally.

    People can say what they want but Navy is a solid ballclub. Just ask South Carolina. It was a doiminating performance By the Irish, period.

    The haters and spoiled brats were busy trashing their own team, the coach, and then Navy. That is a terrible and inexcusable act.

    And last but not least-who the hell let Doug Flutie call this game? His comments of “Let’s move on…it was a glorified scrimmage..etc” prove he is not just small in stature but small in character as well. Throw in the constant remarks about the USC game and Matt Barkley and you should get the point. That little troll is almost as obnoxious as the ‘Oneonta Oaf’ Mark May. Both show a contemptuous attitude to Notre Dame and deserve to be shunned. Their performances are insulting to Notre Dame and Navy. I guess Flutie and May can’t fathom that those men from Navy will be here soon enough serving their country in a greater cause; a cause beyond the capabilities of of both of them. I find both to be bigots as well. I welcome and applaud my Navy Brothers, all of which would be fine additions to the Army, and we would welcome them, I might add.

    This game gave many of us here in the ‘Sandpit’ great happiness and the realization that Notre Dame can beat Stanford and SHOULD! USC had that game with Stanford won. The ‘Tree’ guys had fear in their eyes. The Irish play physical and rock them hard early and watch out Cardinal-they will wish they were in St Louis!

    Things look good and it is important to remember ‘See what you have; not what you want to have.’ Go Irish! Hooah!

    • Great post in regards to Flutie, May and respecting those who wear the uniform to go do much more important things than playing football.

      Stay safe…

      • Thanks JDH-watching those ND games and reading these comments really does help us out, more than you know. This forum is a blessed distraction! It lets us know that while it’s crazy here there are other crazy things going on too-like Lane Kiffin!

      • That’s always good to hear SW-so glad that you can watch and ND game or two over there. I’ve had the honor of working for numerous mil/vet orgs over the years in my “spare time”. It’s my labor of love. And some of my dearest friends have done many trips downrange. They (and you) ARE my inspiration and when the going gets tough, I look to them and tell myself, “Drive on. Finish ugly if you have to. But finish.”

        I’ve got a Tough Mudder team put together that’s running next spring. 4/6 are military and we’re running it for Wounded Warrior. I must get in better shape! 🙂

      • JDH-Whether you know it or not your comment just made our day as we prepare to get some shuteye. Here we have no alternative to anything but finishing.
        Thanks for helping ut with the WW Project. It is a great act. We salute you and the Project!

      • 🙂 I say a very humble thank you to you and yours SW! You all represent the best of all of us and the best this nation has to offer. I KNOW that is the case.

        Stay safe and GO IRISH!

      • JDH-Another day,another scout over here, but we are anticipating the Wake Forest game already and hearing about the scouting reports on them. From what we’ve seen they could be dangerous; depending upon which WF team shows up. I guess the same could be said of the Irish.
        We do have one question though-why are so many people so down on Tommy Rees? He is young and will get better. Most here seem to like the Hendrix guy as the ‘Savior.’ Any thoughts without incting riots and mayhem?!
        Off to the gym. Go Irish! Hooah!

      • Well you know how opinions are SW, especially when the passion of sports gets involved! I don’t know- I think it’s because Tommy just isn’t as good as ND fans woul like. He certainly lacks some arm strength and can really get “caught looking”. And of course, there are the turnovers. But I think we’re in a situation of: “Deal with what you have, not with what you wish you had.” Tommy usually gets the job done, even if it’s not pretty. Dayne has shown time and time again he can’t handle the spotlight. For those who want Crist to start, I ask the same question: “What does he have to do to show you he freaks out at inopportune times?” Granted, I know I know. Tommy gives alot of TOs. But, in my gut and based on results, I want Tommy in my foxhole. As far as Hendrix, I just want to see him get some snaps. Like the whole damn 4th qtr. against Navy. Why in God’s name isn’t he getting some grooming time on the field in a blowout? And as someone else mentioned, why not have a goal line package for him? ND is not exactly stellar in the red zone. See what he can do…Just my .02

      • Oh and in regards to Wake Forest, here is my ND motto:

        “Notre Dame Football. Providing lesser programs with signature wins since 1998”

        So yeah, ND better show up and they better not turn the ball over. Or I guarantee WF will smack the shit out of them. WF will be most likely be pumped as hell to play ND at their house. As you said, we’ll see who shows up…

      • JDH,

        I understand your passion and wanting Rees in your foxhole, but I don’t want a QB that can’t take care of the football. Against lessor teams with lessor talent ND can overcome his dumb mistakes, lack of arm strengthe and inability to run. In BK’s offense the QB can’t be a game manager, he has to be the best player on the field. You are refering to two situations where Crist had three turnovers in the redzone, but I can point to a ton of turnovers Rees has had in the Redzone. I don’t think either one is the QB for the future. Crist is a prostyle QB and Rees is a 3 star recruit. It is either Hendrix or Golson. They provide the best option to win in the future. I need to see Hendrix play more to give a good analysis on whether he is the future. Potential don’t mean shit, show me results.

      • @Jack:
        I hear ya man. I hear ya. Again, I am just saying “Deal with what you have, not what you wish you had.” I completely understand your argument. It’s a valid one. Rees and Crist both make me nervous. I give the “intangibles” nod to Rees- that’s it.

        You and I are in agreement about Hendrix. I want to see him (and Golson) get in the mix asap.

    • Absolutely SAD WARRIOR, thank you for your service. I have the UTMOST respect for all who wear the uniform (biggest mistake I made was not going into the Navy-I wanted to get into intellience work-after graduating high school, I digress, I went to college instead). I agree with your observation on both Flutie and Mr. may’s attitude toward ND-let’s face it, Flutie is a BC alum & has no ability to contain his bias. May is just a blowhard idiot.

      Thank you, sir
      Go Irish

  8. Here is what I’d like to see. Solid performances by the players on both sides. The defense just needs to go play. There are no more weird offenses. It’s all either pro style or spread. So take care of a good Wake Forest team. Then keep it together for MAryland and Boston College. Both teams will come to play, but some good smash mouth football should put things to rest early in each game.

    The coaches do need to game plan as no team can be taken for granted. But I would spend a little extra time during the Maryland and BC weeks prepping and scouting for Stanford. That’s the game. Take care of the expected wins by playing mistake free ball and the talent level should showcase itself. Then beat a Stanford team and you make a case that the early 2 losses and the issues culminating in beating yourselves in the USC game are overcome.

    ND hasn’t upset anyone since Willingham’s 1st year. Beating Stanford would be a legitimate upset. Given the indications on potential on both sides of the ball – something that hasn’t existed since 1997 – ND can start to believe. I say start. Until there is a 10 game or more win streak and a win or two against top 10 competition, this team cannot afford to even look at press reports about it.

    The ND program needs to establish greatness by having done it, not by hoping they might do it.

    Go Irish!

    • C-DOG,
      I like what you’ve said. You are quite right, I believe, in your assessment of the “winning” culture needing to be established by…….winning.

      Go Notre Dame

  9. I was amazed yet not suprised that Hendrix got 0 playing time. Brilliant 4th qtr. Leave your starting qb in for 1/2 of the qtr. and risk him getting hurt when you’re up by 7 touchdowns.

    And then put in Crist because you feel bad for him I guess?

    And where did Navy’s points come from- you guessed it. 2 turnovers from Reese, the first a carbon copy of last week. Weird.

    On the positive side of the ledger, fantastic job by the defense to almost completely destroy Navy’s option. It was a total domination on both sides of the ball. A great job of the team moving beyond the USC whooping and the emotional scandal caused by Kelly at the end of the week.

    Yes, there are some on the board not being too happy with the win because it was “just Navy”, but c’mon guys. What do you want? We’d be foaming at the mouth if it were a “close win” and suicidal if it was a loss. We DESTROYED a program that has, like it or not, beaten us the last 3/4 years. And again, the team delivered that ass-whooping after a very difficult week, both on the field and off. Give some credit.

    I personally thought Reese played a very solid game, minus the 2nd backward pass in 2 weeks. If you take that out of the picture, one INT in comparison to his other stats and the dominating win, that bad throw is not that big of a deal. But indeed, his ability to turn the ball over is still a major cause for concern.

    The Irish do have a chance against Stanford, but the D will have to play the game of their lives and a turnover or two by Stanford would be huge.

    • Let’s be honest, this year’s Navy team is no where talented to where the last 3-4 previous year’s teams they had were (read Ricky Dobbs which is one of the reasons they had their success against ND). I am one of those not exactly “wetting my pants” with a win over an over matched Navy. Maybe I’m being picky & pessimisstic, but, BK’s decision to not play QB backups for extended playing time and thereby risking TR’s health after being up 42-7 is indicative in my opinion of some coaching judgement NOT being exercised. Wake Forest is going to be tougher than what I think people are believing them to be. If ND hammers the Demon Deacons on Saturday, I might feel a bit better about this team. Of note, BK has the same record as Holtz at the same juncture of their coaching periods. We’ll see how this plays out for BK and his coaching “legacy.”.

      GO IRISH.

  10. At least we didnt LOSE. Im satisfied with this win and especially that we more than handled them which i cant say for the last few years. Yeah, Hendrix should have got alot of PT Saturday but at least we made this win look good. A loss would have been devastating and barely squeeking by almost just as bad. I read somewhere that BK has the same record through the same number of games as Holtz did at this point in his career. Im not saying BK is going to be Holtz or that by beating Navy we are a championship caliber team by any means, but there is a bright side to look at.

  11. A good win, but they did only what they should do. They need to make games like that against opponents who are overmatched, a routine. I did like the mutual respect shown after the game. Whip your opponent on the field if that is what you are supposed to do by playing your best and then shake hands. No smack talk like the future unemployed punks from USC.

    I did also like that USC lost their Super Bowl, although they did fight better that ND did last week. I hope the players did learn their lesson and that Kelly is instilling some leadership, or rather cultivating it.

    I am not hopeful that ND can beat Stanford. Even if the players come ready to play, I don’t think the coaches can make game time adjustments. If Diaco doesn’t come in with a plan to handle Stanford or if Stanford adjusts to his plan, then he’s hosed. And frankly the offense is the same way. If Notre Dame hangs with Stanford in the first half then they may claim some moral victory, although not in my book. I’d like to see more hope, but seeing how USC and Stanford played chess all night, our coaches aren’t there.

    • C-Dog,

      Interesting that you mention USC losing their “Super Bowl” to Stanford last weekend.

      In post game comments Kiffin spent a good part of his post game interview claimimg that the refs “lied” to him about using his final time out.
      (as well as complaining about penilties)

      With the title of this particular post being “Just Win Baby” I couldn’t help but think that Al Davis is sitting somewhere today and having a good laugh!

      Ain’t karma a bitch!

      • Now I see today where the PAC-12 has fined Kiffin for his whiney remarks about the refs.
        The PAC-12 also suspended USC saftey TJ McDonald for head-hunting ways. Said it was his fourth occurance so far this season.
        Throw in the bush league remarks made by a few of the USC players after the ND game, and before their Stanford game, and it is so good to see that the USC administration is hard at work cleaning up their image!

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