I hereby retract my comments regarding the Gators and the SEC

No smartass commentary here, folks. Coach Urban Meyer and his Florida Gators earned this one. They outhustled, outmuscled, outplayed, outcoached, and outhearted Ohio State in every facet of the game, and quite possibly turned a Heisman-winning quarterback into a NFL third-round slot receiver.

Congrats on the 2006 National Championship, Florida.

And AtlantaMan on the UHND Football Forum: you were right. My apologies for giving you a hard time about the SEC.

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  1. Irish Realist 13 years ago

    ‘Braska,

    I have to respectfully disagree. Gamecock fans wanted Strong, not Holtz, run out on a rail when he directed the SO. Carolina defense. Granted the fans aren’t the experts, but that was the general consensus while sitting w/ them in the stands. I don’t think he’s a bad DC (definitely better choice than Mattison), but I don’t think he’s much of an upgrade from Minter. ND needs someone who can get the greatest potential out of average talent (like a Pellini or Tenuta). You give ND’s average talent on D to a DC like Mattison or Strong, and I’m betting you won’t see much improvement. Hopefully more blitzing, but not the improvement that would come w/ a Pellini or Tenuta or Dwyane Walker – led defense.

    Unless the Florida defenses have 6-8 yrs of eligibility, they wouldn’t have been a factor in Zook’s last yrs. They’re just now juniors for the most part so I miss your argument on how the same players who won the National Champ. for Meyer & Strong underachieved for Zook (when they rarely, if ever, got on the field). Of course, they had no impact on Zook’s teams: they were either underclassmen on the 2-3 deep or still being recruited by Zook in high school.

    In 2006, those recruits combined game experience w/ their GOD-given talents to shut down the Luckeyes. You’d surely agree that game experience only enhances their natural ability. You’ll also surely agree Pellini did a HELLUVA job at Nebraska when he served as interim HC in bowl game after Solich was canned. He realized his talent didn’t match up, so he schemed & blitzed his ass off that led to a victory. The guy can flat out coach a defense as he proved at some of the top college programs (nebraska, okla. & LSU) as well as the NFL.

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  2. Cloudy 13 years ago

    Well shucker of info; again you’ve missed the point. Stick to your Maize-peelers, where you’re on a more solid loam.

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  3. Nebraska 13 years ago

    Cloudy:

    Still waiting for you to explain how a guy who throws for 11,000 yards, 88 TDs, had 22 career 200+ yard passing games, dealt the 2003 co – national champions LSU their only loss IN BATON ROUGE AS A TRUE FRESHMAN, and was the first Florida QB EVER to go undefeated against their top rivals two years in a row (UGA, Tennesse, FSU) had some sort of career game by throwing for only 213 yards and 1 TD. And I am still waiting for you to explain precisely how I cut and pasted your own comments without reading them. Dude, I may have my share of problems, but you are too proud to admit when you are wrong, which is a far bigger one.

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  4. Nebraska 13 years ago

    Irish Realist:

    “But to all Irish fans, don’t let Florida’s impressive defensive play trick you into thinking that either Greg Mattison or charlie Strong (both former ND assts)would be ideal replacements for Minter. They walked into a goldmine in Gainesville & took adv. of the great recruiting hauls that zook brought in. If Minter would have been at Florida, then he’d be the new flavor of the week.”

    First off, Charlie Strong’s defenses, an innovative 3 – 3 – 5 scheme, were also excellent at South Carolina. As a matter of fact, Strong’s defenses were what carried Lou and Skip’s putrid offenses at South Carolina, and it was no coincidence that right after Strong left, both Skip and Lou were out the door shortly after.

    Second: you were aware that Charlie Strong was offered the Vanderbilt job and turned it down, thinking that he could do better if he waited, right? Word also has it that he would have gotten the California job had Marvin Lewis (current Cincinnati Bengals coach, then Washington Redskins defensive coordinator) not pretended to be interested in the job to advance his own NFL interests (he turned it down once offered, and Lewis did the same to Michigan State, forcing them to turn to John L. Smith).

    Third: those “great recruits” didn’t do SQUAT for Florida while Ron Zook was there. Zook hired Charlie Strong as defensive coordinator, but as Zook was a former DC himself, he basically ran the job himself (not allowing Strong to run his own scheme) with Strong basically as an administrative guy and figurehead. Result? 3 straight 5 – loss seasons. Then Meyer comes in, and while he did not allow Strong to run his own 3 – 3 – 5 scheme (they kept Zook’s 4 – 3) and brought in Mattison as co – coordinator, Strong had the same role that Zook had when Zook was head coach with Mattison taking on the Strong role under Zook. Result? 9 – 3 in the first year (due to an inability to score) and 13 – 1 in the second (with the sole loss due to Chris Leak giving away a game that was well in hand).

    This national title was Charlie Strong’s (and Greg Mattison’s) defense, Chris Leak’s passing, and Urban Meyer’s HEAD coaching ability (strategy, gameplanning, etc.), and was won DESPITE rather than BECAUSE OF Meyer’s spread option. Had Meyer been running a pro – style or west coast offense similar to the one that Charlie Weis runs, Florida goes undefeated this year AND goes like 12 – 1 while winning the SEC last year.

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  5. Irish Realist 13 years ago

    Cloudy, I think we all miss Stovall especially since McKnight didn’t fill his shoes like we expected. Stovall is a man-child (If I recall he was a year younger than his graduating class / 17-yr old frosh).

    I probably did exaggerate a little on saying “LSU would equally destroy OSU” but they were definitely capable of competing for a national championship this year & the pollsters tend to agree as they leap-frogged USC.

    Florida, w/o a doubt, played their best complete game vs. OSU. THey led the SEC in penalties this yr., but only committed one in the 1st half of the BCS game & only 6 total w/ zero offensive turnovers. They were a lot more battle tested than OSU (or any team for that matter) as 10 of their opponents played in bowl games. But to all Irish fans, don’t let Florida’s impressive defensive play trick you into thinking that either Greg Mattison or charlie Strong (both former ND assts)would be ideal replacements for Minter. They walked into a goldmine in Gainesville & took adv. of the great recruiting hauls that zook brought in. If Minter would have been at Florida, then he’d be the new flavor of the week. I’d prefer to have Flordia’s proven defensive talent rather than their allegedly talented D-Coord.

    My top 3 would be Bo Pellini, Jon Tenuta & Dewayne Walker. Pellini is probably waiting for a HC or NFL job & Walker has already declined. Oh well, it’s a long off-season.

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