2018 Notre Dame Football Recruiting: Updates & A New Offer

There are eighteen days left in the 2018 recruiting cycle, so a quick look on where Notre Dame stands and where they are going.

They are currently ranked eighth nationally on 247 Sports, with 21 signed players and one committed to sign on February 7th. The Irish are looking to add at least three more players and possibly four if some of their top players decide to sign on to play in South Bend.

Updated Rankings

247 Sports released their final top 247 players, with eight Notre Dame players making that group. Some notes about that:

  • Rover recruit Shayne Simon came in as Notre Dame’s highest rising player, climbing 80 spots to #47 nationally. He joins defensive tackle Jayson Ademilola, in the top 50, with Ademilola rising to #45.
  • The only other player to rise in the rankings was Jack Lamb, 14 spots to #105.
  • The biggest faller was safety Derrik Allen, who dropped 26 spots, to be the lowest in the top eight, at #161.

There has been a lot of buzz about Simon at the all-star game practices, with Steve Wiltfong at 247 saying he could see Simon claiming the starting Rover position as a freshman, pushing 5th year senior Drue Tranquill to the Buck linebacker spot. There is a good discussion to be had about the merits of moving Tranquill, but the buzz around Simon is real. Generally left out of the discussion when discussing Notre Dame’s top 4-5 players, Simon could be a major coup for Kelly and the defensive staff.

A Late Offer At Running Back

With the dismissals of CJ Holmes and Deon McIntosh, plus the move of Josh Adams to the NFL, in a week Notre Dame lost three running backs and are left with only three on scholarship on the roster. And that includes early enrollee Jahmir Smith. Not a great situation.

Notre Dame moved quickly and offered C’Bo Flemister, out of Georgia, who is currently committed to Georgia Tech. You’ll initially notice his low ranking, a borderline three star player, but I’d encourage everyone to watch his film. He’s got pretty good speed with an aggressive one cut running style. He also has a knack for making a cut at just the moment the defense is off balance, and the first player that came to mind when watching him do that was Sony Michel out of Georgia. Not to say he is a player of that caliber, Michel was a five star player, but he is similar in style.

It’s fair to be skeptical of late offers, but I don’t see Flemister as a throwaway offer. He’s got some pretty unique skills and is a good fit given the offense he played in. He has an official visit set up in the coming weeks, so there is a legitimate chance for Notre Dame here. A really good late find for Kelly and the staff, if they can pull it off.

Rumblings And Grumblings

  • Notre Dame might be out of it for the four star safety out of Servite, CA, Julius Irvin. This may be a casualty of the Mike Elko departure, as they had a good relationship and he was his main recruiter. The loss of Elko has likely dropped Notre Dame out of the top group of teams, and this late in the game it’s hard to make up a lot of ground, especially without a position coach at the moment.
  • The Irish are apparently still in it for Solomon Tuliaupupu, the middle linebacker from Mater Dei in California, but it would be an upset if he actually ended up in South Bend. He’s heavily favored to end up at USC with his five star teammates JT Daniels and Amon-Ra St. Brown, but the promotion of Clark Lea to DC is keeping the Irish in this. It’s not impossible, but not something to be confident in.
  • Noted today by UHND is the visit this weekend of wide receiver Lawrence Keys. Word is he wants to wait till signing day to join a school, but Notre Dame will be pushing for a commitment this weekend, as they might run out of room for him should he wait for signing day. I like Notre Dame to end up with Keys.
  • A pair of corners, Noah Boykin and newly offered Taiyon Palmer, are still in play for the Irish, with Notre Dame trying to secure a visit with Palmer in the last weeks of the cycle. While Notre Dame went in-home with Palmer last week, if he never makes it to campus, it’s hard to take his recruitment seriously. So, the visit is what to watch for. Boykin has visited, and was previously thought to be favoring Notre Dame. But, as time has gone on, momentum has faded with him. Still, things can change quickly in recruiting, and Notre Dame remains a legit possibility. Just guessing, I’d think Boykin was the better possibility, as Notre Dame has a longer history with him.

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92 comments

  1. Greg Kelly 2 weeks ago

    Stastically over the top. Performance, mooning in the end zone was exemplary, told it all. Tim Brown is a role model. My great great uncle coached Ty Cobb. He actually got Him to two World Series ( Tigers, lost them both) when He left to join His buddy John McGraw , Cobb never got in another World Series. .

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  2. Greg Kelly 2 weeks ago

    PP, Pats in blowout, 42-17. Iggles down with the flu. I’m a bean dip guy.

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  3. Greg Kelly 2 weeks ago

    Randy Moss a ND and Fla. St. reject makes it into the Hall. What a SHAM! NFL , all about the almighty dollar.

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    1. Michael the Archangel 2 weeks ago

      It’s not about character references; it’s about performance on the field.
      If it was about character, racists like Ty Cobb wouldn’t be enshrined either.
      Speaking of “it’s all about the money”, have you noticed what’s been happening in the WH and the Congress? Football players are not “role models”, they’re athletes, flawed -just like our most recognized politicians. I’m sure you’ve noticed. It runs deeper than the NFL; football, be it on the college or pro level, is just a symptom of the greed that pervades and oversees. Follow the money is the guiding mantra.

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  4. Positive Pete 2 weeks ago

    Gents:
    Who do you like in the Super Bowl this weekend? I am hosting a party and plan to break out my Positive Pete Nacho Sunrise Dip for all to enjoy!!!!! It is always a party hit👍👍👍 Please let me know if you have any great recipes to offer (i.e. Dips, Wing Sauces, flat breads, etc…). I was thinking of a Super Bowl Themed Fondu option but as one of my besties says “when it comes to Fondus, I say FonDONT. It is too messy). I am a little nervous that my party favorites may not be enough as it is my first Super Bowl Party. I have nerves galore!!! Wish me luck gang 🤞🤞🤞. Keep those recipe suggestions coming!!!!! Go Irish!!!!!

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    1. jeff 2 weeks ago

      Girl Scout Cookie Medicinal Brownies were a hit at my Xmas party. You should keep it simple and serve Tide Pods.

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  5. ndcrazymike 3 weeks ago

    2014: FOLSTON 175-889 5.1 PER CARRY, CAM MAC 77-278 3.6 PER CARRY, GREG BRYANT 54-289 5.4 PER CARRY, CJ PROCISE 10-126 12.6 YPC. FROM RBS 1582YRDS 5.0 YRD PER CARRY! FROM THESE FUTURE ALL- AMERICANS ( NOT ONE ) ALL-PROS ( NOT ONE ) NFL STAR ( NOT ONE ) NOW NAME THE 5 STAR O-LINEMAN FROM THOSE YEARS? NONE!!! ALL 3 AND COUPLE 4 STARS. ID SAY A TEAM THAT AVERAGES 5 YARDS OR MORE A CARRY FROM 2012 TO 2014 IS DOING SOMETHING RIGHT!!! LETS JUST WORRY ABOUT 2018 GO IRISH!!!

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    1. Bruce Gregory Curme 3 weeks ago

      In the offensive line area, timing and strength are both important, as a unit and as individuals. We have big losses to make up there. Balis will help there, but what about the timing? We have an awesome record as home openers in that stadium…so percentages say we beat Michigan. But what if the line stutters after that?
      The good news is we won’t need many points (by modern football standards) because of our defense. And with our field goal kicker advantage, we’re good to go.
      In this way I could be like Positive Pete…I think our “O” will score a lot. But I’ve been wrong before. In the mail room in the Administration Building, where I had my “student job” that all “fac brats” did, Carl Borcsh (God bless him) said at the beginning of every year “There goes Curme again, leading us down the garden path with the rose colored glasses”

      BGC ’77 ’82

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    2. southside 2 weeks ago

      Agree Crazy Mike , let’s move on to 2018. There is a 5 star O-Lineman out of Tampa , Florida–who is going to announce his choice between U of Florida and Notre Dame on Feb 7th. This is huge–if he goes IRISH. Sure , we need a running back –but this grab of a 5 star O-Lineman can’t be beat.

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      1. ndcrazymike 2 weeks ago

        AGREED SS that 5 star would b so sweet to get for this class!! And your right either way WE NEED A RB!!! GO IRISH!!!

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  6. ndcrazymike 3 weeks ago

    2013 C MCDANIEL 12-705 YARDS 4.6 PER CARRY, ATKINSON 93-555 6.0 PER CARRY, FOLSTON88-470 5.3 PER CARRY, AMIR CARLISLE 47-204 4.3 PER CARRY !! SEASON TOTAL FROM RBS 1934YRDS 5.0 PER CARRY!! 5 YRDS PER ATT. AS A TEAM!! THATS GREAT WITH THESE FUTURE ALL-PROS?

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  7. ndcrazymike 3 weeks ago

    STALEY,NELSON,MCGLINCHY AND CHRIS MARTIN WERE ALL FRESHMAN WHEN HH GOT THEM!! 3 OF 4 1ST RD MARTIN 3RD ROUND STARTED EVERY GAME FOR TEXANS AT CENTER LAST 2 YEARS B4 GETTING HURT!! I GUESS DEFENCES WERENT PUTTING 8 MEN IN THE BOX FROM 2012 TO 2014 RESPECTING THE PASSING GAME OF EVERIT GOLSON ( HA HA ) AND TOMMY REES!! THANK GOD 4 KIZERS ARM AND ;RUNNING IN 15!!!

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  8. ndcrazymike 3 weeks ago

    I ALSO FAILED TO MENTION IF BVG’S DEFENSE COULD HAVE STOPPED STANFORD FROM DRIVING 50 YARDS DOWN THE FIELD WITH 35 SECONDS AND NO TIMEOUTS TO KICK A FIELD GOAL AS TIME EXPIRED THE IRISH AND HH WOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE 2015 PLAYOFFS!! THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN 11-1 AND GAURANTEED A SPOT. BUT WE ALL KNEW THAT RIGHT

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    1. Bruce Gregory Curme 3 weeks ago

      BVG’s defense (and so did BVG I suppose) saw some wide open tight end beat them badly 10-20 yards downfield at least three times that I remember in the first half. So where was the adjustment? How does a tight end get open late in the second half by so wide a part of the field? Again, for the last time, the catch is made 15 yards or so downfield with no defender in the TV screen (from any angle). A lack of adjustment at halftime during that period drove me crazy.

      BGC ’77 ’82

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      1. Michael the Archangel 3 weeks ago

        Little situational substitution was a hallmark of BVGs tenure. Why was Schmidt not replaced by another DB when it was obvious all Stanford had time for was desperation passes? Because Joe “really knew the defense.” Unfortunately, so did opposing coaches when they played against ND. I hope Lea continues the Elko strategy of pressuring opponents’ QBs like he did vs. LSU in the Citrus Bowl when that game was on the line. No late game “prevent you from winning D’ ” that I used to watch on Saturdays with ND and then on Sundays with Lovey and the Bears. If you’re going to lose, at least go down aggressively.

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    2. Michael the Archangel 3 weeks ago

      OPening game . . .2019 season – at Louisville vs BVG DC Louisville if Petrino and BVG are still employed there!

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      1. southside 3 weeks ago

        MTA , thanks for that alert of Irish versus Louisville in 2019. I live ’bout 2 throws of a possum road kill in Crockett country. I hope the news of game time start is announced soon.

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    3. southside 3 weeks ago

      Again , read the posts. HH O-line had two years of a good running game — 2015 and 2017. Not denying that. You can blame the BVG defense , Kelly , The Qb’s , Jack & Jill , The Menedez Brothers , Rudy or your neighbor next door–but don’t tell me HH is the annointed God of O-Line from 2012 to 2017. Do you even remember HH as the O-line coach in 2012 or the running backs , or the rushing stats in 2012 ? Betcha remember Manti Te’o and the Defense that got Irish to the NC , the field goal that beat Pitt , the goal line stand versus Stanford. How bout 2013 , 2014 any reccolection of HH making head lines as an O-Line Guru coach ?

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      1. Bruce Gregory Curme 3 weeks ago

        That’s true Southside. The offense certainly did not lead the way in 2012!

        BGC ’77 ’82

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      2. ndcrazymike 3 weeks ago

        Yes I do remember the RB,S FROM 2012 HERE THEY ARE……GEORGE ATKINSON..51CARRIES 361 YARDS 5TD 7.1 YRDS A CARRY, CAM MCDANIEL 23-125 1TD 5.4 YRDS ……..THEO RIDDICK..190-917 YRDS 5TDS..4.8 YRDS, CIERE WOOD 114-742YRDS 4TDS 6.5 YRDS A CARRY!!! TEAM TOTAL 2145 YRDS 15 TDS AND A 5.5 YRD PER CARRY! 179 YRDS A GAME! NOT BAD HUH!! DIDNT BOTHER TO CK GOLSON OR REES PASSING % OR TD PASSES BUT BY MEMORY THIS TEAM RAN THE BALL TO THE TITLE GAME!! YES THE D WAS GREAT!!! HH ALSO GOT STALEY, NELSON, C.MARTIN,MCGLINCHY AND ZACH MARTIN AS A SOPHMORE NOT A BAD BATCH HE TRAINED!!

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  9. ndcrazymike 3 weeks ago

    IF YOUR THE #1 O-LINE IN THE COUNTRY, A FIRST TEAM ALL-AMERICAN, A SECOND TEAM ALL-AMERICAN, 2 O-LINEMAN GOING IN THE FIRST RD. OF THE NFL DRAFT AND A RB. WHO AT 1 POINT WAS TOP 3 HIESMAN AND BROKE THE FRESHMAN RUSHING RECORD AND WOULD HAVE BROKEN ALL TIME RUSHING RECORD! MAYBE THE PROBLEM IS SOMEWHERE ELSE. ( CHECK THE QB PASSING %, DID U WATCH THE GAMES LAST YEAR) ALSO HH WAS THE O-LINE COACH IN 2012 WHEN THE IRISH WENT TO THE NAT. CHAMPION. GAME. DURING HIS TIME NAME THE GREAT 5-STAR QB, RB, OR WR. WEVE HAD WHO COULD KEEP THE OPOSING DEF. ON THERE HEELS

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    1. david 3 weeks ago

      Shoelaces are tricky.

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  10. duranko 3 weeks ago

    As one would expect with the staff and Polian, Elston and Rees the Elder in place, the ’19 recruiting season has a nice startWallace is a highly regarded CB from Georgia.

    ’19 needs to be a big DL year, with AT LEAST 6 required, 8 advisable, and the Irish may hit that target.

    Otherwise, we ought rekindle the hot stove league.

    I’ll start, and then duck.

    My surprise defensive player for ’18 is Ade Ogundeji. Year three for a raw talent, but hiw weight room work and Elstonian nurturing should bring him along to help Hayes, Hayes, Kareem and Okwara. Enough snaps? Well the great Bill Walsh opined that the key to winning championship football games is being able to sustain a pass rusn in the fourth quarter.

    My most improved defensive player nominee is Shaun Crawford, who had a blazing start and then tailed off. Remember he’d been injured for two years, and probably needs another offseason of weights and conditioning to sustain his top level of play (ask Dantonio) through a full 12 game schedule.

    My nominee for most improved offensive player is Brandon Wimbush. A year ago, he’d barely met Chip Long and Tommy Rees. this is not a riskless pick, but I’ll put my chips on Wimbush.

    My nominee for surprise offensive player is Michael Young. That td against LSU is a sign that he can play, and now he knows his way around. Check the Frosh-soph progress liines of Will Fuller, Equanimeous St. Brown and Chase Claypool.

    Have at it!

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    1. Michael the Archangel 3 weeks ago

      Duranko,
      If you hit on those three, ND will have a chance at another 10 win campaign; even better if Wimbush improves dramatically.
      SB Sportswriter Tyler James asked several key questions whose answers could measure potential success nearly as much as Wimbush could:
      Will Quinn sustain a dominant OL without McGlinchey and Nelson, and keep a pipeline of elites coming?
      Will Coach Joseph develop the many safeties already at ND into a more dominant group?
      Will DC Lea master co-ordinating the entire D’ now that he’s proven his skill at maximizing LB impact?

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      1. ndcrazymike 3 weeks ago

        One Question TYLER forgot to ask, WILL DAVID STILL WHINE LIKE A BITCH IN :18 AS HE DID IN : 17? OF COURSE SHE WILL!!!!

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      2. Bruce Gregory Curme 3 weeks ago

        You know guys, I was at ND as a student in 75 when it got loud from the stands, especially the student stands, about a QB “controversy”…I remember some drunk (student) behind me bellowing “give him his diploma, send in Montana” when a QB majoring in Architecture was in there…it was a five year program then for your undergraduate degree.
        We don’t want to go there again. And it got louder all year.

        BGC ’77 ’82

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      3. duranko 3 weeks ago

        Our safeties would be better with the mere eligibility of Alohi Gilman. Kelly said that Gilman would have started.

        So you have the three veterans, Coleman, Studstill and Elliott.
        You have sophs Genmark Heath and Isaiah Robertson
        You have an emergency/special teams player in Fertita
        You have a puzzle in D. J. Morgan

        Then you have Moala and Derrick Allen.

        There are no sure things, but the guaranteed improvement in our safety corps is as close to a sure thing as you could get.

        It seems, here in the hot stove league, that Safety and DE are the two most stocked positions on the defense.

        More and more, I get less excited about who the starters are and more excited about who’s in the two-three deep.

        Other than at LB, and somewhat at DT, we have a very deep defense.

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  11. duranko 3 weeks ago

    As one would expect with the staff and Polian, Elston and Rees the Elder in place, the ’19 recruiting season has a nice startWallace is a highly regarded CB from Georgia.

    ’19 needs to be a bid DL year, with AT LEAST 6 required, 8 advisable, and the Irish may hit that target.

    Otherwise, we ought rekindle the hot stove league.

    I’ll start, and then duck.

    My surprise defensive player for ’18 is Ade Ogundeji. Year three for a raw talent, but hiw weight room work and Elstonian nurturing should bring him along to help Hayes, Hayes, Kareem and Okwara. Enough snaps? Well the great Bill Walsh opined that the key to winning championship football games is being able to sustain a pass rusn in the fourth quarter.

    My most improved defensive player nominee is Shaun Crawford, who had a blazing start and then tailed off. remember he’d been injured for two years, and probably needs another offseason of weights and conditioning to sustain his top level of play (ask Dantonio) through a full 12 game schedule.

    My nominee for most improved offensive player is Brandon Wimbush. A year ago, he’d barely met Chip Long and Tommy Rees. this is not a riskless pick, but I’ll put my chips on Wimbush.

    My nominee for surprise offensive player is Michael Young. That td against LSU is a sign that he can play, and now he knows his way around. Check the Frosh-soph progress liines of Will Fuller, Equanimeous St. Brown and Chase Claypool.

    Have at it!

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  12. southside 4 weeks ago

    I’ve said it before and say it again. Harry Heistead O-Line coach had an up/down resume when it came to his stint at ND. My problem with him is , despite his talent of producing NFL talent–was his failure to keep a unit to perform in sync on the playing field on a consistant basis under his reign as O-Line coach. Signs of a good O- Line coach is the running game. There are only two years under Kelly and O-Line coach HH –that produced a running attack worthy of elite status among top College Programs. That would be 2015 with Adams/Procise and 2017 with Adams&host of RB’s. My point is —where were was the O-line in 2016 or the other years under HH ? No doubt , if I recall numerous posters on here questioned the O-Line performance under HH—The atrocious pass blocking and the failure to produce a running game. You can give HH all the accolades on producing NFL players—but when it came to on the field success on college level — I’ll give him a 3 star. As far as this new O-Line coach Quinn—I wouldn’t be so quick to judge him—if you are comparing him to HH. Quinn has a good resume/back ground in O-Line production–which hopefully translates into a whole unit of O-line players—instead of just a few like Mcglinchy/Nelson or the Martin brothers.

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    1. ndcrazymike 4 weeks ago

      WOW THATS HARD TO BELIEVE SS!! HE,S BEEN OFFERD A NFL JOB EVERY YEAR HE WAS HERE!! HE TAKES 3STAR LINEMAN AND TURNS THEM INTO VERY GOOD NFL LINEMAN!! QUINN HAS HAD ON THE JOB TRAINING WITH HH LETS HOPE QUINN IS A GOOD LEARNER AND TEACHER!

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      1. southside 3 weeks ago

        crazymike , read your post again “He takes 3 Star lineman and turns them into very good NFL lineman.” Where do you say he takes a College O-line as a unit to a playoff/NC ?

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      2. Bruce Gregory Curme 3 weeks ago

        2012 I think, Southside.

        BGC
        La Crosse, Indiana

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  13. Greg Kelly 4 weeks ago

    Wish full thinking News flash, Kenjon Barner ( ex Notre Damer*) returns kickoff to beat Patriots in Lll.
    * Notre Dame of Riverside, Calif. ” Titans” . To bad Kai Forbath also Notre Dame Knights of Sherman Oaks didn’t get a chance. If Brady has the time he can put on a udder deflating demonstration. He can change the cadence to ” Browerville, Browerville”

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  14. ndcrazymike 4 weeks ago

    Kelly really put his ass on the line by hiring Quinn. After BOSTAD and FRYE interviewed for the O-LINE job Kelly gave it to Quinn ( his old buddy ) who was nowhere near as qualified! Hope this move has the LUCK OF THE IRISH behind it! WE NEED IT!!!

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    1. david 4 weeks ago

      Breaking news for ‘crazy’ viewers: Kelly’s ass has been way past the line and then brought back anyway. Every day with an ND business card is an absolute gift.

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  15. Michael the Archangel 4 weeks ago
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    1. david 4 weeks ago

      Don’t tease me.

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      1. Ron Burgundy 4 weeks ago

        We’ll leave that to Hillary.

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      2. david 4 weeks ago

        The streak continues.

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  16. Michael the Archangel 4 weeks ago

    Kelly hires OL coach in-house- Jeff Quinn
    https://www.ndinsider.com/football/brian-kelly-promotes-jeff-quinn-to-be-notre-dame-s/article_2896b700-0077-11e8-b99f-d74003cefdf5.html
    Now to replace Balis- heard he’s headed to Indiana U.

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    1. david 4 weeks ago

      Kelly has lost all his professional cred, and his sphere of influence is now collapsing in on him. That’s what happens when frauds get exposed.
      His replacement hires are retreads and no names.

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    2. duranko 4 weeks ago

      Michael, it is Ballou, the assistant that left to go to Bloomington, his alma mater. He was the assistant to Balis.

      But Ballou was highly valuable, more than a “mere” assistant. He came from IMG. But Ballou has the reputation
      of being highly advanced in sports nutrition.

      Balis is still there. Recently, in 2016 Notre Dame hired Duncan French as Reichmaster of SportzPerformanz, or some such.
      And my favorite part of the story of Mr. Duncan French is that a portion of his salary is funded by a grant from Bryant Young.

      With my usual disdain for hearsay evidence:

      http://www.und.com/genrel/duncan_french_1007476.html

      Until I saw the poolpah at some other sites, I had been unaware that “ALL OF KELLY’S RECENT HIRES” had been with him at Grand Valley
      and Central Michigan. Some knave altered the data and erased any such evidence for the hires of Autry Denson, Todd Lyght,
      DelVaughn Alexander, Chip Long, Mike Lea, Mike Elko and Terry Joseph. I suspect Deep State or the ghost of Rose Mary Woods
      has scrubbed the data.

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      1. Michael the Archangel 4 weeks ago

        THanks for the correction/update re: Balis/Ballou.
        Although losing anyone who benefits the program is a setback, I feel better learning that Ballou left for his alma mater rather than Balis leaving for a lateral move, especially after so many of NDs players credited Balis for their improvement and development.
        Mea culpa to fellow posters. I try to be careful about what I post; when it’s a ‘rumor’, I’ll state it as such.
        I also try to keep in mind that as a poster, not to be abusive to the young student-athletes on the team; before I post a comment, I try to always ask if I, too, was as immature or showed other acts of poor judgment when I attended, and then often concluding that I was, I opt not to condemn or villify them for their immaturity.
        Such hesitation regarding condemning our student-athletes might be a process we all could consider more often.

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      2. C-Dog 4 weeks ago

        Hey Duranko,
        I meant to reply to your post on another thread. Thanks for the explanation. You are Subway Alumni. Part of the family. For what it’s worth I’m totally good with your positions.
        Happy to debate on topics knowing we want the same thing.

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      3. david 4 weeks ago

        Every time a bell rings, a Duranko gets his wings!

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  17. david 4 weeks ago

    If it turns out that the 2017 season was a concession to Kelly ( agreed to after that 4-8 shi+show ) to allow him a chance to clean his act up and appear “NFL interesting”, with the possibly of him leaving without another yet crippling compensation apcjkage, then it was at least a PLAN….

    Plans are good things to have.

    And if he does manage to hightail it out of town with another job, the I’ll read the avalanche of “traitor!” posts in a state of unhinged glee.

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    1. Bruce Gregory Curme 4 weeks ago

      David, if that happened I would think you would be happy. But so would BJ, and he’s a good poster. A lot of people would be happy. Personally I think that it’s a bad time to change coaches, I would rather we had changed before 2017 than change now!…but with one more 7-6 year, it would not matter. The only thing is, with a defense that looks to be ND strong coming, and the accuracy problem has been addressed in the passing game…and we own the “field goal” game, so to me, things look good for 2018. My biggest concern is rebuilding the “O” line…hopefully making it a little quicker, but still physically strong.

      BGC ’77 ’82

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      1. david 4 weeks ago

        What must be done eventually should be done immediately.

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      2. Bruce Gregory Curme 4 weeks ago

        Perhaps at 4-8! But not at 10-3…with most of the “D” returning.

        BGC ’77 ’82

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      3. david 4 weeks ago

        An allegedly educated person.
        Unconditional. Without qualification. No buts.

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    2. ndcrazymike 4 weeks ago

      ya!! they let him clean up his act!!! Another of many posts made by a true no nothing asshole!! yeah DOPEY DAVEY in case he hightails it out to the NFL!! Even a DOPE like u knows there is no NFL job waiting for KELLY!! THE BEARS story was they were asking KELLY about HH b4 they signed him!! With all the great coaches out there ( u know the ones who u want to replace KELLY but never name names ) why KELLY? These NFL teams will probably b calling u DAVEY for your assanine opinions, so put down your cars and trucks and LEAD THEM DOPEY DAVEY!!!!!!!!!!!!! KEEP NOT WATCHING DOPE!!!!

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  18. Ron Burgundy 4 weeks ago

    The boycott continues…

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    1. david 4 weeks ago

      As does the longest-running ‘petty snipes only’ festival.
      Useful. Compelling. Smug.
      Love theee Notre Daaaaaaaaame!

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  19. southside 4 weeks ago

    Thanks MTA , Duranko and other posters for latest news and in depth research on recruits/new coaches. I browse around a bit myself — and I came across Eric Hansen–writer for ND Insider/South Bend Tribune. He mentions “Nick Coleman” as in the mix of a running back for 2018. But that’s it. Now , all I know of Coleman is his is being played at corner back since recruited and Elko moving him over to safety in 2017. I’m curious though –as to Eric Hansen’s dropping line about Nick Coleman as a runninning back. So , I looked up his bio—and sure enough Coleman was a First Team All State running back out of Kettering , Ohio. Notre Dame liked that he had D-BACK potential. Fast forward and that’s where Coleman is now. But , with Irish in dire straits for a running back for 2018—take a look at this Youtube clip of Nick Coleman as a running back—it’s pretty impressive. —https://youtu.be/ZOKHolKqQ —–

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    1. southside 4 weeks ago

      Sorry , if my youtube failed—but look it up — Nick Coleman/Notre Dame on youtube. This kid is a running back.

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      1. southside 4 weeks ago

        Knute Rockne All American–the movie from 1940 is being televised on TCM channel On Demand. It’s showing till Jan 24. I highly recommend it for ND fans of all ages. First time I saw it–I was as a little kid—but have seen it quite a few times over the years. Pat O’ Brian plays the lead role as Rockne, and Ronald Reagan plays the part of George Gipp. There are some neat film clips of ND campus , Golden Dome , and football action of ND versus Army. For sure , the movies of that era were a bit corny in dialogue and humor —but that’s the way it was back then.

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      2. duranko 4 weeks ago

        I don’t know Southside, moving from defensive back to running back, very questionable.

        Perhaps we should ask Reggie Brooks, he might know something about this matter….

        Last I checked his zip code is 46556

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    2. HURLS 4 weeks ago

      I second Southside’s thanks. I’m not “lazy” per se, but the research of the facts/trends is something I’m not qualified to do. So, likewise, thank you.

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      1. duranko 4 weeks ago

        Sure, Hurls, we are all, by consent and comity in this together.

        What is startling, in 2018, is that some people actually read.

        What is exponentially startling, in 2018, is that some people deal in facts rather than emotions.

        Then there are the posters like Damian, so very deft at limning both sides of an issue, and then reaching a non-preemptive
        conclusion.

        Just for the record, I am not “‘lazy’ per se” I’ve had to work at it…….

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  20. duranko 4 weeks ago

    Well, the song says

    “Notre Dame Our Mother,
    tender strong and true.

    I’ve never heard it sung “Notre Dame THEIR mother”
    but there were a few days with diminished capacity due to Boone’s Farm………

    Further, I seem to recall a cheer in which sides of the stadium altered:

    WE ARE

    ND

    Perhaps it was misheard, several hundred times and was really

    (envision shouters pointing at the players)
    THEY ARE
    ND

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    1. Ron Burgundy 4 weeks ago

      Well played

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    2. david 4 weeks ago

      Slogans, songs, B&W movies.
      Compelling stuff.
      In 1960.

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      1. david 4 weeks ago

        To add to that thought….

        Try to find sales stats for ND fan gear, and compare that to the popular, rising brands. That’s the ‘canary in the coal mine’ of ND football as a whole.
        And when all those 45+ year olds are finally done spending their money on purely sentimental, nostalgic crap (well, other than MAGA hats), that river is dry.
        And if you don’t think that ND knows it, and gets reminded of it every time it renegotiates its marketing deals, you’re laughably naive.

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  21. Michael the Archangel 4 weeks ago
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      1. Ryan 4 weeks ago

        Sounds like a nice pickup. If defenses that he coached had those kind of stats what is he doing in North Carolina?

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      2. duranko 4 weeks ago

        Ryan, I like your question, but UNC’s defensive problems would probably have upped the salary and opportunity to show his stuff
        by moving to Chapel Hill, sort of like Elko did coming in to clean up the Augean Stables of ND’s 15-16 defense.

        The Heels cleaned house after Gene Chizik stepped down, and they brought in John Papuchis from Nebraska.

        Here’s a blurb on Joseph:

        Another new coach on the defensive side of the ball is defensive backs coach Terry Joseph.

        When Charlton Warren left for Tennessee, UNC quickly brought in Terry Joseph from Texas A&M. Joseph’s time in College Station peaked when the Aggies finished fourth in passing yards allowed per game in the nation in 2015. Before his time at Texas A&M, Joseph has experience working with Papuchis, having been the defensive backs coach at Nebraska, where his teams also rated highly in defending the pass.

        Joseph also comes in as a highly rated recruiter. Considering UNC’s current secondary, there’s not much improvement to be made this year at least.

        Joseph is FRom Louisiana
        coached in Texas
        coached in North Carolina

        the Irish are emphasizing Georgia and have three hot prospects in Virginia

        If, and It is a MASSIVE if, the irish could land the three defensive hotshots from Virginia
        and pick up Williams and NaNa Ofa Mensah from Texas, that would be a great core.

        But, Ryan to restate, your original question was astute

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      3. Ryan 4 weeks ago

        That makes a whole lot more sense Duranko. It seems like a downgrade to go from Nebraska to Texas A&M and then finish up at UNC. Thanks for the insight.

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    2. duranko 4 weeks ago

      Ryan, one other fact thread.

      Joseph is a former recruiting cooordinator at LA Tech and Tennessee. He is the third on our staff along with Polian and Elston.

      Further, and this trait intrigues me, there are three coaches who, after having worked with Joseph at Team A, took him with them at
      Team B:
      Derek Dooley
      Bo Pelini
      John Papuchis

      When you get this call “Hey, Ryan we had such a productive and fun time working at College A, I’d like to do it again and have you come work with me at College
      B.” That ain’t chump change.

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      1. Ryan 4 weeks ago

        Just read the article on ND Insider. Looks like we got one hell of a safeties coach! Thanks again for all the insight D.

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  22. Ryan 4 weeks ago

    David,
    Stop trolling this site man. Your “Debbie downer” routine is getting pretty old. If you don’t have anything constructive to add then STFU. No one needs your pessimistic asides…

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    1. david 4 weeks ago

      Kelly is a fraud. Waking some of you up to that reality is constructive.

      Wjhat have you added lately? Other than that little bit of utterly self-unaware, arrogant, self-righteous hypocrisy.

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      1. Ryan 4 weeks ago

        Who have you “woke up”? How the hell is your pessimism constructive? Now you’ve resorted to name calling Dave? You’re better than that man!

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      2. david 4 weeks ago

        Again with the arrogance. Who are you to speak for “everyone”?
        Just because you’re as thick as cement doesn’t mean anyone, let alone everyone, is too.

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    2. Ryan 4 weeks ago

      Dance like a butterfly sting like a troll…

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  23. ndcrazymike 4 weeks ago

    C”BO and KEYS would b a nice GET for the IRISH!! KEYS would round out a really good WR”S class! C”BO would b a great pickup after STEPP (academics ) dropped out!! C”BO will fit a huge need for the IRISH, and running that option G-TECH does they ALWAYS have tough quick RB,S! Lets hope he comes aboard! OH YEAH JOSH ADAMS was only a 3 star back out of HS. TO!! NOBODY IS PANNICKING DAVEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  24. Keith 1 month ago

    One of the skills I most anticipated BK bringing to Notre Dame was his ability to recruit his “RKGs” and develop them into contributing players. I hoped it would help ND overcome their struggles in recruiting certain position groups.

    I’ve been fairly disappointed by that skill up until this past season. Myron and Hinnish were both used very effectively—they weren’t asked to do to much, but they did have the skill to do what was asked. I’m hoping to get similar value from some of last years late editions.

    So let’s hope Kelly sees a way to maximize what this kid can do (though I hope he spends more time letting Dexter Williams do what he can do).

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    1. david 1 month ago

      Let’s hope.

      Because there’s always that.

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  25. Alley O'Cat 1 month ago

    Nice Update, Greg. Would love to get Flemister at RB.

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  26. Greg Kelly 1 month ago

    C’Bo won’t be another Tebow.

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  27. david 1 month ago

    A panic offer to a “low 3-star” RB. Who is currently committed to a school where the coaching staff is very stable, and where they run the ball. A lot.

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    1. Doc Savage 1 month ago

      Like the article said Dave he’s not a throw-away 3-star. He supposedly has some good moves and if you remember, many great players have played at ND that were 3-starswhen they started there.

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      1. david 1 month ago

        Supposedly.

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      2. George 4 weeks ago

        Yeah, I mean, no reason to even consider a 4 star recruit. Josh Adams had six good games. That’s all the proof you need.

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      3. Ron Burgundy 4 weeks ago

        And yet he’s in the top 5 all time at ND

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      4. George 4 weeks ago

        Right. All the more reason to disregard 4 and 4 star recruits.

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      5. George 4 weeks ago

        4 and 5

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    2. Keith 1 month ago

      I’d say the offer is shrewd rather than panicked. Try to poach a player you feel can fill a hole and that you have an outside shot to get.

      Bringing in low rated recruits late can be a mixed bag. You don’t want to use scholarships on players who will never climb the depth chart; but you also don’t want holes in your roster. Remember when Trevor Laws led the team in tackles because our defensive line consistent of almost only Trevor Laws and he had to play every down? Or when the blue/gold game had to be offense vs. defense because we didn’t have the players to form two full teams? Better to grab a player who can do something for you than leave gaps like that.

      Besides, running backs are versatile special team players. I’d be more concerned if we were adding a low rated QB or lineman.

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      1. david 1 month ago

        Shrewd.
        Sure. Leave the 5 stars for the suckers.

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    3. duranko 4 weeks ago

      yep, “panic” offer, as described by the board high colonic.

      the question, I guess, is it as much a “panic” offer to the chicken littles as last year when we “panicked”
      to get

      Jordan Genmark-Heath
      Myron Tagaivoloa Amosa

      both of whom played a lot

      and
      Kofi Wardlow
      Jafar Armstong
      both of whom shone on the practice field

      I guess time will tell,

      But it must really fry your dough to think about HOW MUCH MONEY BRIAN KELLY makes. Man it must be frustrating, given
      he misery you already have at home and in the workplace to have to worry about Brian counting Franklins!!!

      Aw, shucks, too bad!

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      1. david 4 weeks ago

        “We” ? You a walk-on or a free rider?

        And someone’s got to play…..it’s whoever you got.

        I want Brian Kelly to make more money in 2018 than any other coach. If that’s what it takes to get him out.

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  28. Ryan 1 month ago

    Thanks for the update Greg

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